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KS Registered User (11/26/02 7:30 am)	What went wrong? What went wrong? Why are we now seeing a shrinking of SRF and layoffs? As Bro Vishwananda has said, there has been a management problem for some time. But how did that happen? Running a company does not take years of schooling or even experience. To perform accounting or build buildings it does take skills, but the thing SRF tried to avoid was leadership. The SRF excuse that the poor old ladies were never trained in business is baloney. Of the millions of businessmen in the world how many have formal business training? The skills required to be good at it are the same skills required to be a good yogi. Discipline, integrity, honor, common sense, etc… To lead a company someone needs to be willing to make difficult decisions and work though problems, evaluate priorities and decide how its resources should be spent. A company needs to decide on the culture they will define also. How will they treat employees? How will they treat customers? These are decisions that people need to make if they open a 7-11 store, run a gas station, or run a car dealership. At SRF decisions mean risk and risk means possible failure. This terrorizes the SRF leadership and has since the bad ladies took over. Their method of coping was to reach out and effectively put others in charge of various things. Others may call this delegation however in the SRF case it was more hands off than that. If a consultant told them to do something they did it, without much question, feeling that if it failed it was not their problem. While claiming God Realization for the president they were time after time stepping on land mines in their day to day operations. SRF is in its current dilemma due to this mismanagement. Turning over the company to others leads to others removing large amounts of money, which has happened. SRF produces a set of lessons and one of those lessons deals with how you select business partners. If they had followed their own lessons they would have avoided most of this problem. Why do they not follow their own lessons? Why do they not know who they can trust? On the other hand I firmly feel that the direction SRF took with the bad ladies, one of a powerful central authority for Yogananda’s message, is not the direction God intended and this cut back is just the start of the correction. The bad ladies directed SRF down this path due to selfishness, cowardice, and an urge for power and this is the karmic result.
TheHolySinner Registered User (11/30/02 10:06 pm)	Re: What went wrong? Dear KS, I can't help but wonder what I would have done in Faye Wrights place? Would I be afraid? I think so. I'm not sure they are "Bad Ladies". I believe everybody does the best they can with the knowledge they have at the time. They made mistakes and we are leading a revolt. We may have more power and influnce than you realize. Did you see the latest SRF magazine issue? They published a picture of Yogananda a with crucifix around his neck.... The age of all religions as a dominating central authority over sheep minded people is coming to an end. We will watch them all crumble around us in the next fifty years. We will look within ourselves and find our own central authority there. Edited by: TheHolySinner at: 11/30/02 10:09:53 pm
KS Registered User (12/1/02 6:05 am)	Doing their best? I think you misunderstand the fear we attribute to the bad ladies. Theirs is a fear of losing control, a fear of failing and having the others criticize them, and a fear of losing face. These are not noble fears. Many serious devotees would have done many things differently than the bad ladies. For one thing we would not have published our own books and spread the word that God selected us and is behind our every action. A little humility would have saved them a lot of trouble. We would have made sure that the organization treated employees and monastics with respect not used them for our own survival and disposed of them when they broke. We are talking about simple errors in business judgment we are talking about serious character flaws. We could go on and on. We basically would have studied the teachings of Yogananda and tried our best to follow them. They have not done that. Since at this point they are so turned to the wrong side they believe that Yogananda is behind all their actions they feel they already understand the teachings. They think they feel his presence so strongly when actually it is the swelling of their own egos they feel and love of self. When they pass on a meet Yogananda again they are in for a rude surprise!
TheHolySinner Registered User (12/2/02 1:12 pm)	Re: Doing their best? I agree with everything you said in both posts and I didn't express myself well because I had to run. I agree that there was nothing noble in the way they handled things. Before Walrus I could look at PY's picture, ask a question and hear an answer. Was it PY answering me from the other side? I don't think so. The answers came from inside of myself: through my own consciousness, maybe my higher self or just a higher sense of conscious. So based on the idea that anybody can talk to PY and get answers to their questions; keeping in mind that the answers come through their own consciousness (NOT FROM YOGANANDA) I believe the "Bad Ladies" were able to rationalize their choices by hearing what they thought to be PY's voice. So they published books that they thought PY was channeling through them: God Talks to Arjuna etc. (I wish we all could see PY's origional work on that, but it's probably lost and that is a tragedy.) On top of that they have all these sheep like devotees following them around like they are God's. They're a little short on character so they become inflated to cover up their fears and feeling of inadequacy. This is human. I know you say they claimed themselves to be selected by God, but if you bought into that line of &%$# maybe for a time you forgot you are selected by God too, and mistakenly gave your power away to them? So now you're angry and want to point the finger... I can see how everything snowballed into a big mess. I'm just not sure it's such a good idea to judge them as "Bad". Evaluation of their conduct is necessary to bring everything out into the open and force change. But, what did Jesus say about casting the first stone... Maybe you think you could have done better under the same circumstances, but I'm not so sure I wouldn't have made the same mess. I don't want to minimize the pain they have caused everyone who fell into the trap; after all I was one of them, but doesn't anybody here believe that we all came to "earth school" to learn? Nobody told me either that it would hurt so bad, but isn't it through the pain that we grow? If we stay in a constant state of judgement and criticism without taking responsability for our own part in the cosmic drama how will we ever grow? I'm sorry KS I just don't think it's healthy to label anybody as bad or good when we are all just playing roles. Life is but a stage and we are just the players... (Sorry no time to look up Shakespeare's exact quote) According to the Egyptian Book of the Dead, if at the time of your death your heart isn't lighter than a feather you won't make it to paradise. I believe there is truth in that, whether it's heaven or earth paradise/peace is when your heart is lighter than a feather. Isn't peace all we really want? Yet you won't find it while your pointing the finger saying "I would have done it better" I think the best we can do is make them aware that we feel the whole business has gone astray and we refuse to support any organization that alters PY's writings or purpose. Edited by: TheHolySinner at: 12/2/02 8:15:51 pm
srflongago Registered User (12/2/02 4:24 pm)	Re: Doing their best? You do not need to use messages from Yogananda to explain why the ladies continued on. As I have said before, at the death of Lynn, they had no skills or means of support other than continuing on, with or without inspiration. These women were young adults in the depression. They knew how hard it could be to try to earn a living in middle age on the outside. So what else would you have expected them to do? And why would you have expected them to do a creditable job? They were not trained to run anything, they were followers.
member108 Registered User (12/3/02 6:39 am)	Re: Doing their best? They were followers who refused to give up the power and control once they got it. They never would pull in people of character and integrity to help them manage the place. Pride? Lots of people have to learn to run a business. It is not rocket science. Their mistakes were mistakes of character, not business principles. An MBA would not have helped them.
astral7 Registered User (1/3/03 7:44 pm)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? Since you have already cast the first stone!! There is a current saying where I come from, “If the devotee is more advanced in some way the Paramahansa Yogananda and other great Masters, he will then be able to be uncommitted to anything or anyone, and be on his own to mix and match in an attempt to get the best of all systems without any problems.” So great is his ego feeling it is that he is sure, that although having as yet achieving nothing, he believes that he has put together a better system than any of them, and is ready to be a teacher of men. Or failing that he will at least do his best to work against the progress of those who have brought great things to the world. Many organizations are in a terrible mess, mainly because they did not have the knowledge of Yoga and good leadership. But some things are very different in today’s world. The information age is a new ball game! Centuries ago very few had the means to get details and facts except through those in power. We can go back to Shankara’s time, when this great Yogi/Prophet did the re-oganization of Hinduism, gave it the clarity and strength to withstand over a thousand years of Islamic and Christian oppression. He succeeded in doing for the Hindus what Jesus [through no fault of his own] could not do for the Jews. Actually it was a lot easier for the Hindus to accept an improved approach to the Vedic Santana dharma than it was for the Jews, they found it very threatening, strange, and had something else in mind. This Vedic way is what Jesus brought them from India. And now, we have Paramahansa Yogananda doing a similar thing on a global scale through the Self-Realization Fellowship. He is telling us that, regardless or the shortcomings of "organized religion", this is the way that will help the most persons in this world reach Self-Realization [salvation]. I found this difficult to accept at one time, and it took a lot of learning and work to get past my limited thinking on this. So many devotees and non-devotees seem to think they could run an organization better, or still fear organizations altogether, that their comments on these matters are actually hilarious. It is easy to sit on the sidelines and pretend you know how to do everything better than anyone else “talk is cheap.” Man needs the balanced function of both retaining his individuality and sharing the community life experience. Those who did not, usually reached lesser achievements. Such as many hermits and himits. It has been a few rare individuals who could just serve one of these areas with great success and come out sane and balanced. But when I saw that we are living in a time when things can work differently, with the printing press, literacy, and global communication etc, and that Yogananda also put into place many things that will make this organization free of some of the past pitfalls, & being directed by persons of high spiritual accomplishment [yes I have met with many of them- and can I tell? – that you may never know!]. All of this coupled with the clear and very detailed record we have of that this God-Realized world prophet left us in clear English. This legacy, and the result so far have allowed SRF to avoid many of the pitfalls that have plagued "organized religion" in the past. One of the great things that Paramahansa Yogananda did not do was to tell us he got writings from some angel etc. His stature and greatness were clearly shown and “God talks with Arjuna” for example cam through direct perception with being there in real time, just as his prophecies show he was able to go forward in real time. He was a pure and clear instrument of advanced wisdom and has cleared up so many of life’s mysteries for the serious and sincere seeker. Although it was highly unusual for a yogi to create orgs, there seems to be a lot of copy-cat yogis [or would-be yogis] attempting to do just that over the last hundred years. Nothing in this world is perfect, and no one is claiming such for any org, but I repeat that Self-realization Fellowship has consistently shown itself to be flexible where changes are needed, SRF leadership has kept the method and teaching of Paramahansa Yogananda intact. and they have remained as non--intrusive as possible in the personal lives of devotees. SRF, with PY,s teachings lay it all out for us complete and clearly and we are left to our best judgment. Only if we personally ask for more direction will they encourage us to listen more closely to what the "Master says" about our questions. They neither demand a fixed portion of your income nor the leaving your traditional faith, nor our praise. The list of good things is much longer........ enough to fill pages. I think anyone should be grateful and proud to be associated with Self-Realization Fellowship, and if the next leader does half as good as our humble Daya Mata [and the other good ladies,] we will ...as an organization .... still be light years ahead of what most other groups are struggling with. It is true that at the human level, organizations will often reflect the problems of the human struggle, but the rewards may be well worth it. Even the automobile has been going through its own problems, it pollutes the air, kills millions, and is very costly to use. But better drivers and tech will soon eliminate most of that. So it is the same with "Organizations", with different ways there should be a better result through all the growing pains. It would be simplistic to say that they are only as good as the people who run them, as some people are often getting into or founding orgs who are not qualified of capable of doing it selflessly. There is another outstanding historical fact about SRF. Every leader thus far was a person who did not seek such a position and fame. They are persons free of egotism & ones whose nature was very advanced in Self-realization, and very competent. this alone makes all the difference. The attempts of some to blame all on the leader, in order to most effectively attack Yoganandas work will not succeed. But what else can you do when your own leader[of another group] has made every mistake in the book! Talk is cheap! SRF is still in the fortunate position of not having any political goals. Politicization – or the seeking of it in a society leads to cultism and great abuse of power, as has happened to other orgs sometimes at the founding, someitmes it came later.... Another important matter is that SRF is one of the few spiriutal paths that has not been hijacked by some ambitious executive as soon as the founder was gone. It's succession has clear from Babaji on , and via SRF was followed according to the Master’s good direction. There may be a lot of would-be yogis that are trying to injure SRF by bad behavior and slander, but they are creating their own organizations and are of little consequence to Master’s work. Many people who have not yet heard of Self-Realization will be blessed by your telling them of your faith. And Yogananda encourages this with discretion and a non-proselytizing attitude. Last but not least, Yogananda himself tells us that, “even if we think the leader has made less than the best decision on some matter –follow her with loyalty & I will make it right.” pp. Sincerely, astral Edited by: astral7 at: 1/4/03 7:55:49 am
KS Registered User (1/3/03 10:13 pm)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? *Quote:* Another important matter is that SRF is one of the few spiriutal paths that has not been hijacked by some ambitious executive as soon as the founder was gone. It's succession has celar from babaji on , and via SRF was followed according to the Master’s good direction. Have you learned nothing? SRF HAS been hijacked and is nothing like the organization Yogananda setup 50 years ago. There are many posts about the bad ladies and what they have done with SRF. Here is a whole website about it: yogananda-dif.org/dayadyna.htm What evidence is there that Yogananda is running things? Because SRF says so? Is it revealed in their lawsuits? Their abuse of monastics and members? Their lack of integrity and total secrecy? Their pretense of spiritual status for their top executives? Have you read any of these stories? pub78.ezboard.com/fsrfwalrusfrm30 Edited by: KS at: 1/3/03 10:17:48 pm
astral7 Registered User (1/4/03 8:19 am)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? Dear KS ; The way you have interpreted the Quote in your last post is not what I was talking about In most other religions, the founder [before leaving our scene]had usually appointed a successor, and made it clear in writing or by public announcement. But as soon as the leader left us, there was usually a fast mover who took over and pushed aside the true successor. so it was not the successor as intended by the founder who shaped that religion but many other would-be's. eg Joseph Smith said thdon't give us the BS about giving PY's name its correct spelling of changing photographs, PY did that too for good reasons. This does not change the teachings - but supports it.WE have seen different things and have different conclusions on some of these issues no doubt. This is ok! answer your post in a few days. But your misunderstanding of my comment should tell you how easy it is to misunderstand many of the things SRF is doing. you have shown here how easily this can be done. I will more fully at his son JS Jr was to succeed him, so along comes Brigham Young and appoints himself. A few did follow JS Jr , but BY was a stronger influence. The Self-Realization Fellowship did not suffer this disaster, and those who were duly elected by PY's board, have shown themselves to be of high attainment and leadership, with skills & integrity beyond most corporation executives. Can you show us one major element of PY's teaching that was changed by SRF? I havel't been able to find one! maintiained the leaders will so intact as has faithfully been done by Daya Mata. With respect astral Edited by: astral7 at: 1/4/03 9:48:18 pm
GregsBrother Registered User (1/4/03 10:53 am)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? "They neither demand a fixed portion of your income nor the leaving your traditional faith, " Wrong- The Kriya vow is "leaving your faith". Pledging total allegiance. And dont forget about all the admonitions to "not read other teachings." And the whole thing about just obeying the leaders even when they are wrong and Yogananda will "make it right" is insane. How long after Jesus died did people stop thinking leaders were totally guided by Jesus? Now days nobody (hardly anybody) thinks the Pope, or Priests , are totally "inspired" and should be obeyed even when they are wrong. Yogananda didnt even initiate Faye Wright into Kriya. And I am to believe he picked her to lead his organization? They have changed important passages in Yogananda's writings. It is sad that people are being made to feel guilty if they complain about SRF. SRF is not Yogananda! No more than the Catholic church is Jesus. Despite their bungling, the basic message of Jesus is still there for us. The same is true of SRF/Yogananda. Blind loyalty doesnt make you one of Masters favorites. He was pointing to God all the time anyway. Didnt he say he was the last in the line? So what is this BS about Daya Mata inheriting his "mantle". If anybody did that, it was Rajarsi. The president of SRF should not be treated like a Guru. Her OWN GURU did not initiate her into Kriya, Ma Durga did. I guess Yogananda never felt she was ready. We need to stop the starry eyed crazy -ness and just get real. There is no justification for mean-spirited treatment of monsatics, and lay members working at various SRF locations. Claiming that it's just "Masters discipline" and "some people just cant handle it" is a cop-out, and a lie. Sadly, just like we have seen with Jesus's teachings, as time goes by the real message is obscured by a message of control and obedience. Yogananda said we can seek God with no organization or structure, in the temple of our hearts. Why are we hearing so much about blind obedience, divine guidance, and not questioning the BOD because "they are doing masters will and we just dont get it"? Yes, that kind of talk is cheap. Actions matter. I cant justify bad actions with the explanation that "the person doing the action is totally guided by God and I just dont get it." To me that is the polar opposite of what I learned from Yogananda.
astral7 Registered User (1/4/03 10:47 pm)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? Dear Gregs Brother? I feel your anger and your discontent with some things that are not as you would like them to be. And the frustration of not having access to more data. If you don't like what you see, and have had no luck with your complaints - be patient - new bodies are taking over as time goes by and things may change to suit you. ?? But just think of the many times various persons have had to take Ananda to court for various criminal offences! Now that is real mismanagement and getting away from Yogananda's teachings on the part of Ananda. Djw was clearly and openly treated as the Guru[a position he may not be in for many more lifetimes,] this was also encouraged by the Aananda clergy and others. With his approval. But our good lady Sri Daya Mata has never been considered a Guru by most discerning SRF devotees, and she herself never says or does anything that would give one the impression that she is trying to be one. Are you making this all up as you go along, why aren't you complaining about some these would be Gurus that are really out there, and are only a bunch of wanabees. At any rate please share with me what examples there are our Good lady Sri Daya Mata gives you such an false impression? I admit she has lived a flawless moral life and has never sought power like those others who started cults to compete with masters work. I also admit that to read her talks and hear her speak is like listening to Master. But she does not claim to be anyones Guru. This is the reason why she rarely makes any group appearances for even devotees. She, like Rajarsi before her, does not want devotees to worship her. I see her as a great example of this path and she does inspire many persons to serve Masters Church. THE GOOD LADY DAYA MATA HAS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE ANYONES GURU, NOR HAS SHE GIVEN OUT SUCH AN IMPRESSION OF HERSELF. Does it bother some that she speaks with such wisdom, Well what do you expect - Yogananda Himself trained her for over 20 years to lead and direct SRF according to his ideals. It is just another example of her great attunement with His omnipresence. Durga Ma knew this and so loved PY that she stepped aside after being elected so that the Masters will was done. If there is any thing worse that blind obedience - which I have never indulged in, it is the blind rage and confusion that motivates some of the comments one sees on the net against SRF. I know many kriya devotees who are still with their traditional faiths, and others who have joined other groups and are still loyal to the Self-Realization Fellowship - Yogananda's church, and Yoganandaji. You have been talking to the wrong devotees. I know a loyal SRF family that was leaving CA when PY was still in body, they moved the mid-west. But before they left Yogananda told them to feel free to be part of there new community with some good churh.[as at that time there was no SRF temple in that area] One can join or not join SRF and still love Yogananda, however, He specifically says over and over again in his tapes and writings that the devotee will get the best results by working with the SRF Lessons and supporting SRF by attending regular services while meditating regularly. if you know more that He amybe you should be a Guru. remember when in the A/y PY wandered away to get Samadhi and Dharshan from Ram Gopal -Ram gopal sent him back to his Guru.Yogananda tells us that loyalty is eveything!!! So what if Our dear lady Durga Ma initiated Sri Daya Mata into kriya, it would have been done with masters approval and/or the authority given to her to initiate others. Are you implying that something was wrong with Durga Ma's spiritual life? That she was not worthy to initiate others? We do know of others who should not be initiating others don't we? Such as he who fell from grace. Are you implying that one who was not personally initiated by yogananda is a lesser devotee - where do you get these ideas from? At any rate... you are presumptuous to imply that i am a blind follower of anythig. it does take a long time to get to know another person. I am happy that you still see that dispite some bungling, [which is a tiny fraction of the bungling of other kriya orgs we know of] that you still feel the teachings are there. I believe that in Self-realization Fellowship the example is there also. And just look at the Bungling done by many politicians - the comparison alone will make many other look like great saints. Have you ever met with and had a talk with those you so freely persecute? More than once I have been with most those speak of whom I speak. Any devotee who knows what a true guru is will not be putting others who are not gurus in that position. And if they do so -please don't blame the victim! - The one who is put in a false position by some naive devotees and angry persons. I don't suggest that you should feel guilty for complaining, the only problem is you don't have some of your facts straight, if fact you barely have any facts at all. And the way it is done makes a big differece to, I only know that when I have written to SRF (many many times) with a suggestion or a complaint, I have always received a positive and good response. It is easy on the net to pretend we could have done such and such better "after" we see someones work is less than perfect at times - talk is cheap! with respect ...Astral7 Edited by: astral7 at: 1/4/03 11:07:09 pm
GregsBrother Registered User (1/5/03 12:13 am)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? I just wonder why Yogananda didnt give Daya Mata Kriya? Ma Durga was obviously far more advanced than Daya Mata. Yogananda gave Ma Durga Kriya and not Faye Wright. Fact. Important points to keep in mind when deciding if SRF should be evaulated as a normal human organization, or one that is "divineley guided." Yogananda had a saying about "sore spots". Thinking SRF is perfect and divinely guided is one of those "sore spots" that God will hammer until devotees mature out of that false ideology.
soulcircle Registered User (1/5/03 2:38 am)	it would surprise me when i attended my first kriya initiation and some monastic, through smoke and mirrors said yogananda is initiating you...........it would surprise me IF anyone but the monastic "initiated" me it would surprise me if any of us after '52 are "initiated by yogananda"
username Registered User (1/5/03 6:40 am)	Re: it would surprise me I believe , in yoga, that it is only if the guru has given his powers to the next guru in the line, that this would be the case. And Yogananda didn't do this. And I can't figure out why not
username Registered User (1/5/03 6:43 am)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? to astral 7 srf kriya pledge requires that you give up affiliation with other churches. if you say in your kriya report that you are a member of another church, they will refuse to give you kriya.
srflongago Registered User (1/5/03 9:25 am)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? Giving up your original religious affliation was exactly what was NOT required before 1935 when SRF became a religious instuitution. Kriya is not a religion, but a discipline compatible with all religions. This tenet was kept in the title and publicity for the Golden Temple of All Religions given to Yogananda by Lynn in 1938,which fell into the sea. But, but like that temple, has since been eliminated by SRF. Compatibility of Kriya with all religions has been preserved by many others in the lineage of Lahiri.
Ringbearer7 Registered User (1/5/03 9:32 am)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? "Yogananda gave Ma Durga Kriya and not Faye Wright. Fact." What is the evidence for this fact? I have read this somewhere on Walrus before but I find it somewhat difficult to believe. I think srflongago made this claim somewhere but I think this account was 2nd hand since he/she was only involved with SRF in the early years. Anyways, I would be interested in hearing any additional evidence you might have.
stermejo Registered User (1/6/03 5:45 pm)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? Astral7 said: "If there is any thing worse than blind obedience - which I have never indulged in,..." My dear friend, A7, Perhaps you should TRY blind obedience. It would open your eyes! Now perhaps you think I am being sarcastic. Not so. Allow me to indulge imaginitively: If Babaji told me to do something-whatever it was-I would do it without question. And not because it was Babaji speaking but only because of a feeling within that I know he would never ask me to do anything harmful. Blind obedience. Try it. Try it. Edited by: stermejo at: 1/7/03 4:19:40 pm
redpurusha Registered User (1/7/03 12:16 pm)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? username, I said I was in the roman catholic church but did not attend church regularly. I wasn't refused kriya initiation.
astral7 Registered User (1/17/03 10:42 am)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? Thank you, Redpurusha; For clarifying something that many Self-Realization Fellowship Devotees already know. And for your contribution to nuking some unture statements on these net boards. The Self-Realization Fellowship does not ask others, or ecpect others to leave or deny their traditional faiths. This is what Christians and Muslims might do - and perhaps this is even the policy at Ananda.? I personally know persons of various religions that have received Kriya from Self-Realization Fellowship with no such strings attached. The leadership and policies of SRF are such that no such limits are placed on the devotee. Blessings IDL Astal7
astral7 Registered User (1/17/03 11:03 am)	Re: Organizations at doing their best? "Yogananda gave Ma Durga Kriya and not Faye Wright. Fact." If this is a true fact, it has no significance whatsoever about Daya mata herself! why it was even brought up on this board is strange. As Durga mata, also a Kriya Yogi, no doubt did this at the masters' approval in some form. As the Beloved Good Lady Daya Mata was singled out time and again as One of Yoyananda's most outstanding and progressive devotees. ONe of those who knew Him and was attuned to the whole teaching and knew how to apply it. He was not disappointed! She has the powerful ability to move and progress with the times and clearly see what is relevent, with creative flexibility and forward 20/20 vision. This is probably the result of her faithful application of devotion & kriya yoga resulting in an advanced yogic state of consciuosness, with clear understanding as to what Paramahansa Yogananda was really about. This is probably what separates her [Daya Mata who does not wish to be a guru] from many others who wanted to be gurus [or atttempt to be]. They are still worshipping the Yogananda of the 1920's. They were unable to keep up with the various adjustments he made for the course of his work, and with the fact that he was flexible, and making corrections to the benefit of all. Some devotees are still lost in some kind of dreamy romanticism of ideas Yogananda changed of discarded long ago. Blind obedience gives them away. Daya mata and others that were close to him and loyal, did manage to keep up with His progressive ways [as evidenced by his continually improving His "Autobiography" eg.] and carried on His work with the same approaches. Sharing with respect- Astal7 Edited by: astral7 at: 1/17/03 5:03:34 pm

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