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Punk Yogi Registered User (1/28/04 6:53 am) Reply	The Serfs Who Live Beneath the Gluttons in the SRF Mansion It's crystal clear that SRF has always been an organization fanatically of, by, and for the monastics. Lay disciples are an afterthought, an ornament to the monastics' rather comfortable world. The materialism in SRF is stunning. Whenever I reflect on the sweeping panorama of my life with SRF, whenever I drink in memories of the farm and the Mt. Washington mansion, I always get an affiliated image of a plantation or some feudal institution with its multitude of serfs gardening and picking weeds for the benefit of the privileged masters within. Raja Begum said it early on in his 11/04/01 entry: *Quote:* One senses that they are groomed to believe they are God's elite. Read the pamphlet entitled "Give Me Thy Heart"..... "At the heart of Self-Realization Fellowship is a dedicated monastic order." If monastics are "at the heart" of SRF, where do the lay members reside? In the sphincter?
etzchaim Registered User (1/28/04 7:01 am) Reply	Re: The Serfs Who Live Beneath the Gluttons in the SRF Mansi Punky, I have memories of a life as a slave on a plantation in Alabama. I interpret past life memories as "working hypotheses, but anyway.... Your image of SRF as a plantation is intriguing. The use of the term "Master" has always disturbed me, and the attempts of the Southern plantation culture of the whites to rationalize slavery as a way of 'bringing' the Africans to a higher level of civilization and religion is similar to SRF. Maybe there is some American karma being worked out. The thought has occured to me frequently.
Punk Yogi Registered User (2/2/04 11:53 pm) Reply	Daya Mata's Influence: Creating a Monastic Bias in SRF This quote is revealing.... *Quote:* "Our Guru was sent to the West to start a work of world importance. Daya Mata (if certain monks in SRF are to be believed) has told them that Master came to the West to found a monastery. Can a mission designed to uplift the whole of society be focused entirely on developing a monastery? This is not what our Guru himself stated. (Indeed, he devoted only "overflow energy" to organizing our monastic life. It was I myself, under his supervision, who actually organized our way of life.) "Here is an example of Daya’s tendency to bend his intentions, publicly stated, to correspond with her own concepts: The Master frequently — indeed, fervently — urged people at public gatherings to create "world brotherhood colonies." This was his term for spiritual communities. Such communities were his solution to a problem many devotees face who must otherwise live in worldly surroundings. Daya Mata’s interest was only in monastic communities." from... PARAMHANSA YOGANANDA’S PREDICTIONS FOR THE SRF PRESIDENCY by Swami Kriyananda New Delhi, India December 27, 2003 The complete text is on the following thread by Premdas: pub78.ezboard.com/fsrfwal...D=22.topic
Punk Yogi Registered User (2/3/04 4:13 am) Reply	Paramahansa Wasn't Talking About Monastics Then... Paramahansa Yogananda speaking at the 1950 Lake Shrine Dedication: "We must build build colonies wherein we can shape the youth who are willing -- hundred percent willing -- to have jobs, happiness, freedom, and produce food for their own use.... All our vegetables are grown by our boys which supply close to 200 people. So they are -- we are not charged in the ordinary sense. For one hour, we build a great big edifice, and then we pray for people to come and sit. We don't ask. Whoever comes willingly, fine. Whoever doesn't, we don't coax. We want hearts. I prefer a soul to a crowd, and I love crowds of souls. SO THE GREATEST THING IN THE CHURCH MOVEMENT IS THE BUILDING OF COLONIES to take the surplus of industry and to educate the American youth in character building." ".... This sort of colony, I hope the Governer, with all my humbleness, emphasizes character education in the schools, AND BUILDING OF THESE COLONIES WHERE THEY CAN HAVE THEIR JOBS, HOME, CHARACTER, CHURCH, AND FREEDOM IN THE SAME PLACE. And I have found the greatest results by that way. But I have some people of great educatable ability, we are now starting, we have started already a goat dairy, and another colony is starting in Phoenix. We have quite a few colonies in India. BUT THE COLONY SYSTEM IS SUCCEEDING BECAUSE IT ISN'T A CHURCH FOR ONE HOUR -- BUILD A GREAT BIG EDIFICE. TIE UP SO MUCH MONEY. You see, we have simple construction and beauty.....It is all done by our own people...."
KS Registered User (3/6/04 8:16 pm) Reply	Re: The Serfs Who Live Beneath the Gluttons in the SRF Mansi Master did NOT come to the West to build a new monastic order. That is cult myth created to justify their positions of power.

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