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Sydfrukter Registered User (10/5/05 7:08 am) Reply	Cult Busters have changed Hi,, I think this Cult Busters message deserves to be noticed: *Quote:* Forum Administrator Posts: 702 (10/4/05 5:45 am) Cult Busters Revamp Cult Busters - SRF Division is currently undergoing an overhaul [and] the name is even being changed to simply Cult Busters. Having the board primarily focused on a single, relatively mild cult, gives the information hosted here limited appeal and value. Of course, a strong spotlight will still shine on SRF and Yogananda, but I feel broader coverage would ultimately be of more significance. [Emphasis added] Also, I'm shifting the approach of the board as more of an information resource [emphasis added] than that of a debating community. Important information is getting buried in chit-chat squabbling and the like. Edited by: YellowBeard420 at: 10/4/05 7:58 am It means the Cult Busters board is backing off from Yogananda issues, when it comes to its main focus. What is not mentioned in this note is that Yellowbeard has acted notoriously bad against the postings of some, who have deleted their various contributions and appear to have left. On the other hand we have some from the Walrus there, including a SayItIsNotSo, who some time ago wrote she would not post there. The moderator's chit-chat suggests there are talkative ones on board, and that they don't mean much. Times are changing. It takes a lot to stand firm. ARE PRUDENT WALRUS CHANGES ALSO BEING IMPLEMENTED? I have also noticed that the Walrus has allowed postings that show Yogananda spoke well of dictators etc. And if that is from a change of policy on this board, it should show up in the "aims and ideals" of the Walrus, to make sense. Otherwise, how defend that Yellowbeard and others were banned for less drastic exposures of things related to Yogananda? Aloha, Syd Edited by: Sydfrukter at: 10/6/05 7:13 am
Sydfrukter Registered User (10/6/05 7:16 am) Reply	Re: Cult Busters have changed I was reminded of an anecdote about Alfred, Lord Tennyson, from seeing an arse on the front page of Cult Busters: One day the young Alfred Tennyson (1809-92), suffering from a painful case of hemorrhoids, visited a proctologist. So successful was the doctor's treatment that Tennyson was subsequently untroubled for many decades. After becoming a famous poet and peer, however, he suffered a relapse and revisited the same proctologist. Oddly, the man seemed not to recognize his famous patient - until he bent over for examination, whereupon the proctologist exclaimed: "Ah, Tennyson!" As for the Cult Busters moderator, it may be the best part of him shown - who knows?
Ramsses II Registered User (10/6/05 6:35 pm) Reply	Re: Cult Busters have changed It is the only part of him.
Sydfrukter Registered User (10/7/05 6:08 am) Reply	Re: Cult Busters have changed Hi all, Yogananda's wisdom reaches out into yellow journalism too, which is not absent on the Cult Busters. Perhaps Truman's comment on Richard Nixon applies: *Quote:* Richard . . . is a no good, lying ba[s]tard. - Harry S. Truman. He applies the wisdom in a saying by Richard James (etc): *Quote:* When I see a bird that walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck. - Richard James Cardinal Cushing (1895–1970) A picture seeks to capture the Richard James words: oaks.nvg.org/sr11.html Now to Yogananda - much of his journalism wisdom applies to running discussion boards too, for they share some features with newspapers. ----------------- FROM AN EAST WEST YOGANANDA ARTICLE: Some years ago in Boston, while being interviewed by a newspaper reporter, I gave my views on the subject of education for boys, based on my experience as founder and principal of the Ranchi Residential School for Boys in India. The next morning, the interview appeared in the newspaper with the headlines reading, "The Swami’s Opinions on Flappers." Much mystified, I consulted four dictionaries without discovering any other meaning for "flapper" except "One who, or that which, flaps." This left me as much in the dark as ever, and I consulted some of my Boston friends. Imagine my surprise to learn that "flappers" meant "scantily dressed young girls." The small boys I had been talking about to the reporter had undergone a newspaper metamorphosis, emerging as full-fledged girl flappers! Certainly the methods of exaggeration and distortion, and the free play of imagination and fictional skill that are employed by some newspapermen in lieu of sober consideration of facts and actual events, can make a harmless rope look like a vicious snake. Press Necromancy Some of the clever street magicians of India can, apparently, produce articles out of thin air. This magical ability to materialize something out of nothing has been developed to a high art by the press-necromancy of certain American newspapers. A constant stream of unwholesome wonders emerge from such newspapers’ trick hat of imagination. The deluded public gazes in astonishment at what appears to be a whole forest of venomous cobra snakes but which is in reality nothing more than a coil of inoffensive rope. It lies with the public to destroy the menacing influence of untruthful journalism in America by refusing to buy its tainted pages. One knows not where its poisoned shafts will strike next. The history of yellow journalism is a continuous record of broken hearts, broken homes, ruined reputations and blighted lives, unjustly brought about. The fruits of a lifetime of disinterested service to mankind can be reduced to ashes thru the soulless efforts of yellow journalism. Gold is its only god, and to that god, there is nothing too sacred for it to sacrifice. Truth is its plaything, useful to it only insofar as it allows opportunity for distortion, misinterpretation and exaggeration. Catering as it does, to a depraved public taste that lacks sufficient moral and intellectual background to enable it to detect truth from falsehood, the only aim of yellow journalism is sensationalism and "thrills," without regard for any fundamental right, truth or principle. Thru lust for gold, it will crucify any man or any movement at a moment’s notice, employing conscienceless writers, skilled in the crafty art of misrepresenting truth while clearly avoiding the technical charges of libel. Propaganda against India These words are called forth thru the recent wholesale and seemingly organized propaganda in certain unprincipled newspapers, and in several books and magazines, aimed against India, Eastern teachings, and Oriental teachers. The regenerating, life-giving, soul-revealing philosophy of the glorious ancient Indian sages has been more and more coming into the limelight in America, due to the reverent interest and earnest study of thousands of truth-seeking, thoughtful, unprejudiced Americans, who are lending their moral and financial support for the spread and defense of India’s eternal light of truth. The shallow reasoning, race-prejudice and love of sensationalism at the expense of truth that characterizes yellow journalism and writers with the Nordic-superiority-complex, have recently been widely employed in an effort to block the waters of truth that have been flowing from India into America. As well try to stop the stars in their courses! So long as spiritual hunger persists in American, so long will the deathless message of India’s saints continue to nourish the Western brothers. . . . The individual contribution of Indian national genius to the well-being of the world is a spiritual one. . . . - Yogananda. "Yellow Journalism Versus Truth". East West, January-February, 1928 VOL. 3—2 FROM ANOTHER EAST WEST ARTICLE *Quote:* Many . . . are like vultures, scattering their feathers in their struggle to get near the carrion flesh . . . Murders and sensational divorce cases claim their headlines, while good deeds and good thoughts hide on the back pages, if indeed they are present at all. . . . But when did these same . . . ever recount the glowing story of the good deeds she has done? If Mrs. McPherson has done no wrong, then what untold injustice and persecution is being heaped upon her! - Yogananda. "SYMPATHY FOR AIMEE SEMPLE McPHERSON". East-West, September-October 1926, Vol. 1-6 Mhmm! Edited by: Sydfrukter at: 10/9/05 8:04 am
Ramsses II Registered User (10/8/05 8:38 am) Reply	Re: Cult Busters have changed Unfortunately SRF is its own worst enemy. Its cult behavior, its recurrent editorial tamperings of Yogananda's writings, its mismanagement, dishonesty and secrecy, are more damaging than anything its enemies could invent. Who would not question Yogananda's stature, given the historical information about him on the internet that SRF cannot control and that is often in striking contrast to its sanitized picture of him? The ultimate irony is that Ammachi, the one whom some view as the greatest threat to SRF that could ever have been imagined, and who is indeed the Divine Mother Yogananda worshipped, has given her unqualified praise of him.
Used Yogi Registered User (10/9/05 8:50 pm) Reply	Re: Cult Busters have changed Ramsses, Why does SRF see Ammachi as a threat? Have her followers dared to state that her teachings are the teachings of the New Age or something? I haven't followed her, so don't know what the deal is. Used Yogi
Ramsses II Registered User (10/9/05 9:04 pm) Reply	Re: Cult Busters have changed As far as I know, there is no official SRF policy on Ammachi. Daya Mata sent three of the Sisters to see her, and they were very respectful and very well recieved. Others in SRF believe that because Amma is considered to be an avatar, and her appeal is so great, she eclipses Yogananda.
Used Yogi Registered User (10/10/05 11:12 pm) Reply	Re: Cult Busters have changed Well, SRF can't have any competition...that's just not fair! How does this sound: "...saints of all religions except Amma..." Used Yogi
Ramsses II Registered User (10/11/05 6:01 am) Reply	Re: Cult Busters have changed I am told that the Sisters who went up for darshan with Amma were very devotional with her and that Daya Mata is fully aware that Amma is Divine Mother. Amma has said, "I and Yogananda are one."
dontknownothinbouthistory Registered User (11/20/05 11:17 am) Reply	do not see her/ not once have most devotees.... do not see her/ not once have most devotees....not once have they taken their children to see her monks of stupid fear farm from the pulpit have told devotees not to see her and don't mention her to junior devotees
Ramsses II Registered User (11/21/05 8:49 pm) Reply	Re: do not see her/ not once have most devotees.... Don't make me cry.

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