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SayItIsntSo Registered User (1/11/04 4:21 pm) Reply	Wasted Life I have to vent. Excuse me. We wasted our lives by not living them, by closing ourselves off from life itself for some ambiguous bliss promised by dead yogis. Our children grew up and moved away. Our youth fled. We missed it all in meditation. We never lifted a finger to help our communities, to feed the poor, to reach out a hand to anyone but other devotees. We served DEVOTEES. Convocation was nothing but self-service to DEVOTEES. Every single event is for DEVOTEES. Someone please post one thing that SRF did that benefited anyone but them. Please post if you heard of SRF opening a: soup kitchen: medical care facility: clothing for poor people: anything that was done for another human being that wasn't a devotee or a monastic. I challenge anyone to tell me something they did that helped someone in the good ole USA! I swear I want to know! I want to be proven wrong! You want a REAL spiritual high? Take your kids out to fly a kite. Dance! Get drunk once in awhile. Have a steak! A martini! Laugh! Cry! Make love! Make friends! Help someone! GET out of meditation and get into the WORLD. Experience LIFE. Party. Do it all. You'll be dead soon enough. Rant finished.
SsSsSnake Registered User (1/11/04 11:21 pm) Reply	Re: Wasted Life and do alot of this
chuckle chela Registered User (1/12/04 12:35 pm) Reply	Re: Wasted Life Great rant! It's true that the greatest waste has been the waste of lives. It didn't need to be this way. Regarding SRF helping anyone, don't they mention in their VL appeals about going to hospitals, giving food and clothing to those in need, donating to the Red Cross, and stuff like that? SIIS, I think there are a lot of good people and good actions within the SRF culture. Of course, I'm not excusing all that is bad.
History Buff 2002 Registered User (1/12/04 4:27 pm) Reply	Re: Wasted Life Bravo, Sayit isn't so! My neighbor, who is one of the nuns who left in the "great migration" of 2001, is dying to know who you are, since you must have been in the ashram at the same time. You left in 1999, yes? Because of a problem at the temple?
SayItIsntSo Registered User (1/12/04 5:09 pm) Reply	Re: Wasted Life I wasn't in the ashram! I was a householder. Oh, yes, the Voluntary League... hummmm. Ever see a break down of those donations? And isn't it true most of those VLA's are expenses to repair SRF properties? Has anyone seen the legal expenses against Ananda? Or against the city of Pasadena because SRF wants to take over that neighborhood and move the body up there? There is a website for the people who live on Mt. Washington who want to fight SRF. They are not the nice neighbors they pretend to be. www.savemountwashington.org/aboutcander/ I donated a lot of $$ to the new Pacific Palisades retreat and temple. Ahem... I was on the "monthly" program. I never did get an invitation to stay there. Has anyone any clue what it costs to maintain these properties? Maybe SRF does good deeds for people outside the org., I can only go from my own experience. As I've said, I was a 30 year member involved in both Hollywood and Fullerton and convocations, and only report my own opinions based on what I saw. Beyond opinions, I hope that those who are still members and lurking here (for some reason...but why if they are happy and confident in their path?) that they find evidence that their secret feelings that SRF isn't working in their lives, doesn't mean they are betraying their guru or will be banished to years of reincarnation. Sorrow and love are never far apart.
Lobo Registered User (1/13/04 12:31 am) Reply	Re: Wasted Life YSS in India does extensive welfare work in that country. They also have clinics, schools--both girls and boys etc.; as quoted in the winter Self Realization magazine as follows: "...the Yogoda educational and medical institutions now comprise twenty-three schools for boys and girls throughout India, including a college with degree programs in arts and commerce and science, boy's school, girls school, music school, preschool, Sevashram clinic with allopathic and homeopathic sections, and an eye clinic, all in Ranchi; colleges in Suraiket and Palpara; high schools and primary schools in Anandapur, Bherir Bazar, Chandigarh, Ghatal, Ismailchak, Lakhanpur, Palpara, Payarchak, and Suraikhet; and a medical dispensary in Palpara." My wife and I also contributed to the Lake Shrine new construction. We never received a personal invite to attend the new retreat either. But, truthfully, and without judgment, I must say here I never expected an invitation, nor was one implied by SRF to induce member's giving. One, as always, simply has to contact the Lake Shrine retreat to schedule a retreat; the same as all members. For me the fact that SRF does not reach out to its members when those members leave or stop participating in its Temple activites was/is most welcome. Coming from a fundamentalist Christian tradition of my parents I well remember our "pastor" visting our home uninvited to ask why we weren't in church the previous Sunday, and to make sure that we were the next. I remember feeling upset that he would have the guts to do such a thing; even then I instinctively understood that spirituality and religion are a personal thing between one and one's Maker, and therefore has little to do with church membership or attendance.
username Registered User (1/13/04 4:32 am) Reply	Re: Wasted Life according to a friend of mine who visits India frequently, SRF facilities in India ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO UP TO WESTERN STANDARDS. They recommend that if you are western to stay at a different place because they know you would not be comfortable there. The centers are poor and not maintained. She was shocked
SayItIsntSo Registered User (1/13/04 11:11 am) Reply	Re: Wasted Life Each of us has our own perspective. Each of us as our own needs to be met. Beyond what SRF gives, doesn't give, who's in the inner circle, who's out, the messages the of these teachings are toxic shame. The rest of the trappings isn't important to debate because it's a "round and round" kind of, he said, she said, blah blah blah. SRF is a classic Wizard of Oz plot. Follow the yellow brick road...follow, follow, follow, follow, follow the yellow brick road...to Emerald City (MC)... "Dorthy, don't look behind the curtain!!!" PS. I know a man who was a new devotee--he was so great! I really liked him... Anyways, he was so excited about the teachings, about everything SRF. Well, he went on one of those SRF (unoffical trips to India) with "stars" in his eyes. He came home and quit SRF, never to be seen or heard from again. Lobo, I did expect an invitation. I think it would have been a nice touch. But, again, the message is, "don't expect anything from us." Just give without question or expectation. Your comment is SRF thinking. It's right on target. What is wrong with wanting something? I see nothing wrong at all. Edited by: SayItIsntSo at: 1/13/04 11:14 am

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