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(2/1/02 6:05 pm)
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Another relevant analysis
From Freedom and Accountability at Work, by Peter Koestenbaum and Peter Block.
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It is helpful to realize that every failure is experienced as a small death. We try to value failure as a learning experience, but it is a difficult stretch in most institutions. This may be due to the realization that if we accept failure, we accept the fact that something is going to die. If our intent is to find failure interesting and fascinating and a source of learning and growth, then we have to come to terms both with our own death and with the reality of our institution’s mortality.

Institutional mortality means the organization will not go on forever. Not only is it likely that the organization will lose its vitality, but elements and projects within it also lie within a term limit. Any project we work on will reach a point where it is no longer supportable. We need to accept that our work unit is a temporary structure and it will at some point be merged into the very group that we wanted to take over. Plus most of us will leave this organization at some point, probably sooner rather than later. When we face the reality and presence of death, all of these smaller and symbolic versions of dying lose some of their paralyzing power. They have the potential to be taken as sings of life and a natural process rather than mistakes that should have been avoided.

To speak in these terms is usually frowned on. If we speak publicly of our organizational mortality, we are accused of disloyalty or inappropriate pessimism. We are all surrounded with the false bravado of “Failure is not an option.” The workplace becomes a place of manufactured optimism. We put posters on the wall with positive messages, we hold public meetings claiming a bright future and declaring success, and we then hold private meetings to deal with the reality of missed objectives or painful changes. This duality of public celebration and private realism is our defense against failure. This means we treat death as a mistake, as a sign that management has not done its job, that workers have not acted accountably, or that technology has not reached its potential.

This denial of death in the form of failure has significant organizational costs. We keep investing in projects long after we know they will not succeed. We position news of a failure in a way that people will feel good about it, and thus create cultures of unreality. We also deny our guilt and avoid taking responsibility for failures, thus triggering widespread and long-term defensive reactions to events that could have been put to rest quickly if we could see them for what they were…simply failures.

The alternative is to take failures as gift-like reminders of the difficulty and impermanence of life and let this deepen our determination to invest in work that holds meaning and create organizations that we want to inhabit. We could then publicly acknowledge that something did not work. We would not need positioning language that shields people from the truth about their experience.
What an apt description of the SRF environment! And shouldn't we be embarrased that business writers have more understanding and perception than some yogis? This, to me, is the definitive proof that things are rotten in Denmark. In no aspect of life do the insiders up there display even average ability or understanding, much less a higher level. If the excuse is that they are being divinely guided, then the claim is that they are at all times being guided to do dumb things, because that's what they always do. Not a very believable claim, to me.

anonymous
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(2/2/02 10:39 am)
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divine mis-guidance
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In no aspect of life do the insiders up there display even average ability or understanding, much less a higher level. If the excuse is that they are being divinely guided, then the claim is that they are at all times being guided to do dumb things, because that's what they always do.

This observation (which I think is bang-on) reminded me of studies that have been done demonstrating that persons who are the least competent (i.e., lowest quartile) are also the most likely to grossly overestimate how well they performed (i.e., ranking themselves in the highest quartile). As one summarizer of the study put it: "Confidence level and competence seem to be inversely associated at times--i.e., the less one is able to do something or the less one knows about it, the more that person has no doubts about his or her own abilities. So a little knowledge can sometimes be a dangerous thing."

Worse, a little knowledge, coupled with the belief that one is being "divinely guided"--not to mention the many other widespread collective and individual psychological dysfunctionalities that exist inside a place like SRF--is a very dangerous thing.

And that, in turn, reminded me not only of the self-important but consistently wrong/inefficient lower managers to whom I used to have to obediently answer at Hidden Valley, but more specifically of Achalananda's misled satsanga statements that "Einstein's intuition failed him in his later years [from not meditating]" and that Albert "couldn't see" that the ideas that he was objecting to in quantum theory were actually valid. (When people talk proudly about how Einstein "couldn't see" things that are "plain as day" to their own "intuition," that should generally raise a red flag.) And further, of Dharmananda's statement that "scientists who use their intelligence to 'get famous' [rather than for serving/seeking God] are misusing that intelligence." Richard Feynman--heir to Einstein's mantle of being regarded as "perhaps the smartest man in the world"--however, actually did not want to receive the Nobel Prize in Physics, for fear that the attention would interfere with his work in finding out how the (physical) universe operated. How many monks (in SRF or elsewhere) can say the same? That they don’t want public recognition, because it might interfere with their spiritual progress?!

Einstein's intuitions regarding the inadequacies in the accepted formulation of quantum theory have actually been amply justified by work that David Bohm did in the 1970s and '80s. Albert was simply too far ahead of his time to enjoy that justification of his position. But that's one of the ways in which intuition manifests, right? Of knowing that you're correct, even if it's simply from feeling vaguely uncomfortable about the available alternatives, without being able to suggest anything better yourself at the time, and even if you can't prove that you're right until years later. SRF, in contrast, still hasn’t caught up, instead quoting approvingly from Fritjof Capra and Amit Goswami, whose reductionistic books on "physics and consciousness" read like catalogues of wrong ideas, but which sound reasonable, and which "fool most of the people, most of the time." (The foremost theoretician in Transpersonal Psychology, Ken Wilber--who claims to be able to enter the breathless and brainwave-less state at will, and yet who has in no way given up sex, alcohol, popular music or profanity to get there--has been one of the few voices offering cogent criticisms of Capra's and Goswami's works of "unintentional fiction" over the past two decades.) When SRF does reference Bohm--e.g., in God Talks With Arjuna, in terms of his model of the universe disclosing that "matter is condensed light"--they do so in the same meaningless "similarity in words, not in meaning" way that Capra and Goswami have made good careers out of, without bothering to understand the ideas at a deep enough level to know what they really mean.

So to Achala (who used to administer HV) and Dharma: First turn a profit at Hidden Valley with your business management skills and "intuition"--or at the very least with all the free labor you enjoy, which real businesses would never have access to--and then critique the lives of scientists who are doing their best to discover truths about how creation works, and who are by no means "wedded to rank materialism"! (Feynman had several out-of-the-body experiences--although he considered them to be simply products of his imagination--while entire chapters, if not books, have been written on Einstein's spirituality.)

Dharmanada actually teaches that pruning a tree or driving a car are examples of intuition, when those are rather examples of simply learning/internalizing rules or behaviors to the point where we don't have to think about them. Equating that with intuition is equivalent to confusing the subconscious with the superconscious...after fifty years of meditating!

I consider both Achalananda and Dharmanada to be decent, honest people. They may even have been competent professional Engineers before entering the ashrams; but insightful, they are not.

A meandering post, but a good one :)

KS
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(2/5/02 10:13 pm)
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Re: divine mis-guidance
Can you imagine feeling that you are divinely guided? What an ego trip. How difficult would that be to maintain some balance?

Even if it were true, that you really would divinely guided, would you feel the need to tell everyone at EVERY OPPORTUNITY? We hear it over and over and over. Master selected those in charge, they are executing the big plan laid down by Babaji, on and on.

Would you need to tell people?

It sounds like an excuse.

I know what I am doing looks cruel and disappointing at times, but I am divinely guided and executing God's will.

"The outside world will never understand our ways."

"It is amazing to see God's plan for SRF unfold like it is."


These are examples of classic cult thinking.

Edited by: KS at: 2/5/02 10:16:33 pm
redpurusha
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(3/27/02 8:49 am)
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Re: divine mis-guidance
This is not to equate SRF with the 9-11 attacks in anyway, but bin Laden abused Islam and did not take any personal responsiblity for the attacks by claiming it was the will of God, to punish America for all the evils they have done. On the video he talks about planning the attacks and so on, but basically he believes he is merely an instrument of God, doing a humble service for Allah.
That is his argument and why he initially denied any responsibility, even though all evidence proves he was/is the mastermind.

Religion can be abused and exploited very easily. Its just part of the times civilization is in. From what I understand it was God's will for Yogananda to spread kriya and unite East & West, and I believe this is carried out today by SRF. How effectively they are following that will is dependent on all of Yogananda's disciples, but especially the leadership (mostly the president -Daya Mata).

I think that if you guys on this Walrus board really want to make a difference in SRF, then you must do your best to reform yourselves from within your own bodily kingdom and establish a pure working
organization there. At least have that as a primary concern, and any other outer reforms as a secondary concern. That is really what the path is all about. We have very little if any control or influence on SRF leadership, but we have almost full or potentially complete control of your own kingdom. One can argue that SRF affects his inner reform and spiritual progress, that has some truth in it but these are the challenges presented to us in this life.

username
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(3/27/02 9:03 am)
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Re: divine mis-guidance
How do you establish " a pure working organization there"?

redpurusha
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(3/27/02 12:34 pm)
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Re: divine mis-guidance
You replace misery-making inefficient king ego with the all powerful blissful king soul, make him the president of your little bodily kingdom. Under the soul's presidency the citzens are heard, are treated with respect and everything is working in tune with God's will. Everyone, from management to employees is ecstatic and living in harmony.

This is not to reflect reform within SRF but reform within man.





username
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(3/27/02 1:23 pm)
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Re: divine mis-guidance
I need the exact "how to" list on this one. Thanks.

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