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OneTaste
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(6/21/03 5:57 pm)
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Member108 :
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SRF is trapped by its own dogma. SRF is run completely by God and therefore what happens is God's will. To even admit to a problem or mistake is something they would never do. To them, and remember that they project their own values in this thinking, to admit to a mistake would take down the cult house of cards they derive their power from. They are convinced that members would leave Master if they new that SRF was not perfect. Since they work very hard to equate Master and SRF, failures of even an accounting project would mean Master was not perfect.


Yes, they do seem to be trapped by the dogma of the "path without any dogma beyond 'just meditate.'" And theirs is an unfortunate spot because it’s probably true that many devotees would leave, just like many are now leaving to one degree or another because of all of the shenanigans coming to light. And just as many would leave if they take the steps folks routinely and rightly call for. They have painted themselves into a corner, close enough to read the writing on the wall: no reform--lose devotees, reform--lose devotees.

And how trapped are those of us who had swallowed it all without flinching for how many years? It does have a way of getting in and coming out in some pretty sneaky ways.

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Once we purge the current monastic environment and purge the silly cult following devotees Master will begin to attrack real truth seekers directed to God and honest mature spiritual principles. SRF will dry up and blow away.


This seems as good example as any I’ve seen. If you look at it, it is not all that different than the cant the boosters put out. Once we purge the current monastic environment? Not much different than the idea that all the monastics leaving now being a pruning of the dead wood. Ok, at least damaged wood. The silly cult following is the opposite of the shrilly malcontents they deem the folks here to be.

I like the honest and mature spiritual principles part. The inference, is that folks here are manifesters of these principles. Yet, no one has raised an eyebrow to this newer new dispensation of . . . what, exactly? It appears to me to be the same old whine in new bottles: four legs good, two legs bad. Or, wellian, something like that. You just can't bleat that. Can you?

This constant splitting of folks into good and bad, in or out, maturely spiritual or just regular ol’ cult creeps just doesn't seem like a winning proposition, no matter how you slice it. Spirit is over here with the annointed, yet somehow lacking over there with the annoying.

SRF may indeed dry up and blow away, but given the nature of nature, something equally dualistic will spring up to take its place. I can’t wait to meet the board of directors and see the new rue-els. This is what you do to be a mature spiritual being, unlike all those less than mature frauds. Us and them, black and white, people we are just not wrapped too tight.

More and more, it is beginning to look to me that being "spiritual" is the biggest impediment to realizing our oneness with Spirit.

Looks like I’d better find the “lesser than” line and beat the rush. In the meantime, I've got a splitting headache.

dawnrays
Registered User
(6/21/03 7:03 pm)
Reply 		Re: Is Another Purge Upon Us?
You're absolutely right.

"Being spiritual is the biggest impediment to realizing our oneness with spirit."

I really, really think it helps to step back at times and do supposedly non-spiritual things (but they really aren't because everything is spirit.) Enjoy nature, music and develop your hobbies and interests. This constant search for the annointed doesn't get you anywhere if you can't see it in your self, people you actually know naturally, nature and the world. Being in a special group is nice for awhile, but it may not last and it may not be good for it to last. To move on spiritually I think means to apply what you've learned to the world. I think it's more frustrating for monastics and even persons who have practically lived like monastics (which is really the only kind of people that srf seems to tolerate on the inner circle). When they realize they have to change and move on in order to survive and progress spiritually (and maybe even mentally and physically) it's a shock because srf does not acknowledge or accomodate that.

Also, there are different levels of awakening. There is always somewhere to go, even for the Masters. God needs to pull the wool over our eyes somewhat even to our own beauty and glory in order for us to participate in this lila. I hate to see people just assuming that someone is higher or lower, it's such a trap. I'm not a follower of Kriyananda, but occasionally he says something really good like "assume you are already there", and I don't mean outwardly.

Also, God is awake and alone. To awaken to this level means to feel that aloneness and sense of responsibility and it's not always pleasant. This is why it's called oneness and it could also be called aloneness. Soon after the shock of getting there, all you want to do is get back out there and "play".

He created us in order to have someone to love and play with!


dawnrays

Edited by: dawnrays at: 6/21/03 7:15 pm
chuckle chela
Registered User
(6/22/03 9:33 pm)
Reply 		Re: Is Another Purge Upon Us?
One Taste, you certainly have a way with words! What a great post. Holy duality, I just split my gut laughing.

Excellent questions you ask, those. I've wondered similar things.

"More and more, it is beginning to look to me that being "spiritual" is the biggest impediment to realizing our oneness with Spirit.

"Looks like I’d better find the “lesser than” line and beat the rush. In the meantime, I've got a splitting headache."

Great stuff! What I have found interesting is that in all the reading I've done since becoming aware of all the problems in SRF many of the writers essentially say, "Look, let's forget about all this high-faluting spiritual stuff. Let's just try to be human." Merton, for instance, makes a point of emphasizing this. And it makes more and more sense.

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