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Punk Yogi
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(12/12/03 12:56 pm)
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Re: Temperament - Personality Types
Ah yes, the old missing coffee pot scenario!

As I began analyzing my dreams and started becoming aware of my authenticity issues, I would often have dreams which featured buildings, landmarks, or other structures acting as grounding points or axis mundis. In the dreams, I would come to that center and touch it or put my spiritual eye on it and immediately experience bliss or some emotional release. It was a clear message to me that I needed grounding. Groundedness is often an acquired capability for a lot of abstract types because we spend a lot of time in our imaginations and thoughts. But we become much more effective at sharing our gifts with the rest of the world once we anchor ourselves....

If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; there is where they should be. Now put foundations under them.

--- Henry David Thoreau



Ranger20 writes:
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That single incident convinced me like nothing else, of the wisdom of learning basic competence in "foreign" functions.


And that's precisely why I appreciate some things about my involvement with SRF. Getting involved with an organization that was 180 degrees opposite my typology (ENFP gets involved with an ISTJ organization) allowed me to get in touch with what typologists call the "inferior function." The problem would be (and was for me) remaining too long in the inferior function.

According to self-esteem expert Nathaniel Branden, self-esteem is the judgment we pass on ourselves. If we feel inappropriate and inefficacious in our environment, we are a very good candidate for developing low self-esteem. Of course, the opposite is true: we can develop an inflated ego from being too identified with the external reinforcements of our typology. That's why it is important to have work authentic to our typology coupled with intimate exposure to ideas, activities and people outside of it.



To Etzy:

The INFPs make great artists and healers. I have a lot of INFP friends, and they never cease to fascinate me. Good luck with your book.

XXXX
from your circumcised ENFP Punky

username
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(12/12/03 1:46 pm)
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Available as Guru
Xnun thinks I could be a guru. Great!

I am available to receive your money at any time.

Send me a private message and I will be glad to reply with all sorts of verbal abuse and put downs (this may be especially helpful to those just out of mother center - it will kind of make you feel like you are home)

If you are young and beautiful, we can meet for sex.

And if you want various kriya techniques, just let me know. (I can make them up or get them from books - just as easily as all the other kriya teachers out there.)

Edited by: username at: 12/12/03 1:48 pm
ranger20
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(12/12/03 2:29 pm)
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Punk Yogi writes:
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It was a clear message to me that I needed grounding. Groundedness is often an acquired capability for a lot of abstract types because we spend a lot of time in our imaginations and thoughts. But we become much more effective at sharing our gifts with the rest of the world once we anchor ourselves

Yes. And now that I think of this, I recall that Jung said that the psyche, of itself, moves to experience some of it's "unlived life" at midlife. He and some of his associates saw this dynamic in the common fairy tale theme, of an ailing King, who needs "the water of life," or something like it, to be healed. Three brothers set out, and it is of course, always the third brother, thought to be incompetent, who succeeds.

The King was held to represent the dominant function, that has carried the individual through the first part of life, and just gets burned out. The "dumb" brother, as the least developed function, is most unconscious, and as such, is closest to where the waters of life do indeed flow.

I know that for myself, household fixit chores, yard tasks, even splitting wood, and stuff like that, are things I tend to put off, but when I finally settle down and get to it, there's a great amount of satisfaction. I dreaded cleaning the gutters last weekend, but when I finally got to it, it was very satisfying. There was a strong breeze blowing, and the sky was really beautiful, and I suspect I was far more "mindful" than someone who is just an easy and natural "toolman."

YellowBeard420
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(12/12/03 2:40 pm)
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Personality Typecasting
Xnun writes: "At the moment I'm really intrigued by this personality type theorie. And since YellowBeard seems to have been leading and heating all the discussions recently, I wonder if he would be willing to take the test as well."

I wouldn't say leading ... heating at times when appropriate, yes. I'm simply making careful contributions because I feel this great Walrus board is here for us to find healing and freedom from oppression -- funny me. Now I realize that most of us are simply hanging out playing cards here, which is well and good. Community during these rough times can be helpful. But YellowBeard feels many of the core issues which we all face as ex-SRFers (such as spiritual authority), need to be closely examined.

Xnun has shown how personality typecasting (like all forms of stereotyping) can be used to degrade others. I am opposed to this practice, even though it may be entertaining for many, because it is simply another cage to try to wrap people up in. I feel this is an insult to the image of God which dwells equally in all. We should always direct our minds toward this liberating principle within ourselves which can never be typecasted, boxed, tagged and sold. This is all YellowBeard really speaks on here -- freedom. Many get all worked up over what he says in a negative way, which is unusual considering the freedom he is speaking of is for each and everyone of us. YellowBeard fails to see why this is such a threat.

Username writes: "And if you want various kriya techniques, just let me know. (I can make them up or get them from books - just as easily as all the other kriya teachers out there.)"

God bless Brother Username for making the truth known on many issues which have been used to manipulate and rob us.

Xnun
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(12/13/03 6:42 am)
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Re: YB's Typecasting
YellowBeard, you're right. I'm not here to "buy" anything (and I have the impression most others on this board are neither). I come here mostly for fun, and I just got a great laugh and many chuckles out of username's post. -- While the "careful contributions" of yours had no other effect but spoiling the fun for me. It just sounded so much like the propaganda I grew up with in communism, only different vocabulary, but the same techniques of manipulation. -- Congratulations for putting a few things behind you! I hope you can add salvia to that list one day. It's a strange "freedom" you are offering, don't you think?

Edited by: Xnun at: 12/13/03 7:51 am
dawnrays
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(12/13/03 7:34 am)
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Freedom to Agree with Yellowbeard
YB,

Seems to me that the only time you consider other's to be truly free, is when they agree with you!

Since that so far hasn't happened yet, I guess nobody is "free".

You've done a fair amount of typecasting and projecting yourself, not the least of which is making the assumption that you know what everybody else's problems and hangups are. You're the expert! You also seem to like to typecast all guru's (which just means teacher) as lusty power trippers. That's not degrading? You also put down any opposition to this warped thinking as not being "realized".

You also seem to have a weird "let's kill the messenger" type attitude. This was what the ancient Greeks did when they didn't like the message. Odd also since you seem to quote from the lessons and writings in virtually everything you post! Could it be you are jealous and YOU want to be the guru?

I think this "typecasting" can sometimes be interesting. It's a good analyzing tool as PY say's and alot more constructive and mature then blaming everything on the evil witch Faye or the evil wizard, Yogananda, which is all you ever do...

Punk Yogi has masterfully shown you up again! And don't worry, no matter what you think Yogananda did, he was ten, no, a hundred times the man you are with all of your self righteous whining.

You pathetic wimp.

stermejo
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(12/13/03 11:42 am)
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Re: Temperament - Personality Types
Uuhh oohh, I was wrong. No evidence of a train wreck. You guys all do a great job in posting. Replies are thoughtful, well organized, with proper spelling and grammer. What more can one ask of an e-mail or Internet post? I'd have to say "brevity" especially beacuse I and suppose most of you don't have a 21" flat screen High resolution SGI monitor! The eyes tire. Even so, I couldn't think of a better use for printer ink than printing out your posts. That is if my printer ink would stop drying out in this desert heat faster than I can use it and the cost of an ink cartridge would finally be less than the cost of a new printer.

That being said, I observe the Walrus going through periods wherein clusters of posts are highly prolix. Could be wintertime with most folks huddling around a warm Hard Drive. Here in the desert, it's summertime when I want to stay indoors out of 110+ heat cooled by my CPU fan.

Having sat down and read screen after screen of posts, I'm slowly getting the jist of which the main thrust seems to be "this is who I am" vis-a-vis SRF. So, I guess it's fair for me to weigh in with a twist.

This who I WAS 32 years ago according to a Brainard Occupational Preference Invertory:

Interest Area                Percentile

commercial                60
Mechanical                2
Professional                60       
Aesthetic                95       
Scientific                50
Agricultural                53

The results suggest interests in business management, jobs involving verbal expression, music and statical research with secondary interests in medical work or sales.

To which I say: business management? I belong to the working poor (1 paycheck in 1 paycheck out) and my only foray into business resulted in getting fired because I was too Union friendly. Verbal expression? True, I'd love to write for a living but I like to eat better. Music? Don't play. Barely listen. Do have a wide range of tastes. Stats? That was a fun course but the math was killing me. Medical work? I always had to pay through the nose to be poked and prodded. Sales??? Too much:-)! You want to buy what? Man, you don't need that. Go spend your money on something else. Better yet, save it.

What happened to mechanical? I'm working in that field now and it may even result in my emergence from the poor working class. I'm 18 months away from a city mechanical license and have worked in areas like building steam and cooling systems for power plants, hospitals and procees water and gas piping for micro chip plants. Two precent? Who'd a thunk it? I guess things change over time.

BTW, aaarrrgghh, recent tests indicate I'm an ISTJ. Little if any of that descritption seems to fit. I did have to take the MMPI twice to get work. It's commonly administered for people working at nuke power plants. I passed. Maybe they like the ISTJ type. Don't take any of this stuff too seriously. Ironically, think how Jung's teachings have been spun by his followers.

soulcircle
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(12/13/03 12:01 pm)
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Name calling Re: pathetic wimp
Hi Guests and All,

Nice to see 13 of us in here this morning......too bad you are subjected to dawnrays name calling

YellowBeard420, you sure woke up dawnrays...
shall we circle the wagons til her rampage is a thing of the past

How noble you are dawnrays, for your last line in your post two posts above!

Geez, get ahold of yourself dawnrays.

Relax!!

Your angry statements boomerang

Where is the love?

Anyway to the other 11 of you in here, and to dawnrays and myself.......there is hope that as we accept ourselves, we accept whatever conceptions people have of us and Punk Yogi and PY and Faye, and to some extent people in here (though of many different persuasions)
........we hope to some extent people in here accept our failing a bit.....our feelings about YellowBeard420????

I, too have resorted to name-calling
......and when I reflect on having called people names, I realize I was losing the points I was making in my discussion


...and in frustration of losing a discussion/argument I departed from issues and to name calling

...so next time you see me name calling, know that in that particular discussion I was the loser.

Do we all have a heavy, almost immovable punching bag to pound and scream at?

circle the wagons

Edited by: soulcircle at: 12/13/03 12:05 pm
SerenityNow7
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(12/13/03 2:31 pm)
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Re: Interpretation is an Art
Punkyogi, what you said
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The "odd type out" feeling is what a friend of mine calls the "NF confusion." Like the ugly duckling. NF's are very undervalued and underpaid in society. The first thing I usually hear from a confused NF is "I'm such a strange person" or some variant -- "I feel like such a geek." NF's are abstract but very social. This is torture. Usually NT's can bury themselves in technology and structural thinking like design, architecture, engineering and so on. But an NF needs to work socially but often feels cursed with knowing and seeing too much. A book could be written on it. Many dysfunctions could be eliminated if NF's were given the proper understanding of themselves at an early age before they formed opinions about themselves as odd and inefficacious.


Really makes a lot of sense to me, thank you! Yes, I often say that I'm odd, strange, a misfit. If someone calls me weird, I say "yes, I am." This oddness has affected my life very strongly in many ways, and you are right if I had been helped to see it differently when I was a child who didn't fit in maybe my life would be much different today? I still search for my direction and where I fit in this human society...often feeling like I was meant to be a cat and somehow got stuck being a human!

Anyway, back to SRF, it makes sense to me that the majority of people comfortable with it would be Sensing types. Any person with strong intuition is going to start hearing notes that are off pretty early just like I have.

Edited to add: Good lord! I just read the rest of this thread...it started off so nicely. I guess Yellowbeard wouldn't appreciate my guess that he's an INTJ - I so much wanted to know if I was right, oh well.

Edited by: SerenityNow7 at: 12/13/03 2:51 pm
YellowBeard420
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(12/13/03 5:30 pm)
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Personality Typecasting
First of all, this thread is not about YellowBeard. It would probably be best for us all not to turn it into one -- I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling this way. This is for the discussion of personality typecasting. I added a few comments here because Xnun felt the need to bring YellowBeard up, heaven only knows why. I felt it was important to address what was brought up.

Even though I disagree with personality typecasting, I've avoided posting on this thread so people can have some fun playing with the idea. When YellowBeard sees his name being brought up and being called a sociopath basically, you have to assume that he's probably going to respond. If you want to challenged the issues I bring up, it would be best (for keeping this board as orderly and focused as possible) to do it more directly in a thread more appropriate.

I'm going to respond briefly to some of the key issues that were raised since these authors are using "hit & run" tactics and not challenging the ideas directly in the appropriate forums, and I doubt they will, so I feel the need to respond here. It's up to the posters if they want to turn this into a "YellowBeard thread". I think it would be best if we didn't. I highly recommend challenging YellowBeard issues more directly in the future. It would really be best for the board here. That way new members can deal with the issues raised, or not deal with them; the choice would be their's.

> Xnun writes: "It just sounded so much like the propaganda I grew up with in communism, only different vocabulary, but the same techniques of manipulation."

Strict forms of communism do suppress religion. YellowBeard believes in removing the crutch of religion (for those that are ready) so that it turns into pure spirituality which unifies people instead of dividing them like religion does. Communism takes religion forcibly (which is probably not a good idea) and replaces it with the authority of government. YellowBeard does not add *anything* after removing religion. He simply says keep on the path after doing this and your religious activities will turn into truly spiritual ones.

> "Congratulations for putting a few things behind you! I hope you can add salvia to that list one day. It's a strange 'freedom' you are offering, don't you think?"

What makes you think that salvia is used more than a few times in one's life? The philosopher Alan Watts commenting on entheogens mentioned that once you get the message you hang up the phone. There's no point to continue holding onto the telephone any longer. I agree with this thinking. There's no attachment here, so I do not see the problem.

> Dawnrays writes: "you seem to quote from the lessons and writings in virtually everything you post!"

In all due respect, you seem to be the only one who has made this claim since I've started posting on this forum. I'm assuming your exposure to religious teachings has been limited. I'm not saying that's a bad thing or trying to insult you.

Many readers of this forum are having troubles with SRF ideology. They see the corruption in spiritual hierarchy, but they're afraid to take it all they way to the top. They think that they'll be rejecting the help of God if they reject the guru. In fact, Yogananda has actually said this. I think it's terrible to attempt to enslave someone to yourself like that. Yellowbeard is here with a simple message: You are *not* rejecting the help of God by following your own path. You are simply growing and maturing. When you become free of spiritual hierarchy, you will have to find a light to guide yourself with. Without looking to others, you will find a Light within yourself.

This message is actually much closer to the teachings associated with the Buddha and J. Krishnamurti than with those of Yogananda. I highly recommend looking into those teachings. But YellowBeard is not here to parrot other people's words, he's here to tell his story of how he grew beyond the need for spiritual hierarchy. I think what I have to say here is very relevant to many readers here whether they agree or disagree with me. See if there's truth in what I say, if not, throw it away and don't worry about it. If you do find truth in it, you don't own me anything -- live in freedom, it's your life now and not the guru's. Why do so many readers fear this message? I'm asking for nothing. I'm saying explore freedom as an actuality and not as a concept. How is this so terrible?

username
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(12/13/03 6:39 pm)
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Re: Personality Typecasting
What is salvia?

What personality type is a sociopath?

YellowBeard420
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(12/13/03 7:02 pm)
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Re: Personality Typecasting
> Username writes: "What is salvia?"

Information on that is what the 'Talk is Cheap' thread is about.

> "What personality type is a sociopath?"

From what Xnun posted : "... ENTPs are usually verbally as well as cerebrally quick, and generally love to argue--both for its own sake, and to show off their often-impressive skills. They tend to have a perverse sense of humor as well, and enjoy playing devil's advocate. They sometimes confuse, even inadvertently hurt, those who don't understand or accept the concept of argument as a sport. ENTPs are as innovative and ingenious at problem-solving as they are at verbal gymnastics; on occasion, however, they manage to outsmart themselves. This can take the form of getting found out at 'sharp practice'--ENTPs have been known to cut corners without regard to the rules if it's expedient -- or simply in the collapse of an over-ambitious juggling act. ..."

Sounds like Hannibal Lecter from the movie Silence of the Lambs is being described here. This is why I considered this a description of a sociopath.

Xnun
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(12/14/03 6:05 am)
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"Strict forms of communism do suppress religion."

YellowBeard, I beg to differ. In my opinion, communism is just another form of religion, i.e. the worship of man-made idols and ideas, and as such just suppresses other forms of religion. -- But I would be really surprised if you hadn't noticed that this wasn't the gist of my remark to start with. The gist was that I was considering your post of 12/12/03 2:40 pm (and also some of your other recent posts on other threads) as pure PROPAGANDA, just using techniques of manipulation to get people to agree with you and follow you. I'm certainly not familiar with all existing techniques of manipulation, but the ones I was exposed to for a big part of my life I will smell no matter in what disguise they come. You were casting some ideas into the air that you thought everybody would agree on, hoping to create some kind of spiritual patriotism this way, and expecting that everyone would follow such a wonderful guy like you from there on, no matter what else you said.

Edited by: Xnun at: 12/14/03 6:18 am
YellowBeard420
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(12/14/03 2:46 pm)
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> Xnun writes: "The gist was that I was considering your post of 12/12/03 2:40 pm (and also some of your other recent posts on other threads) as pure PROPAGANDA"

This is a fair claim; the readers should scrutinize what I say (and what anyone says) and I encourage this, *but* please quote or copy & paste any statement that I've made which you feel supports this claim. You can't just say it's propaganda and offer no proof. You can say rocks are really plants, this is fine, but you need to support your case; let's show how rocks show similar characteristics to plants.

> "just using techniques of manipulation to get people to agree with you and follow you."

Once again, grab a quote from me anywhere on this board, or even from my cult buster board to show this. You don't need to understand these techniques. If you recognize a statement I say which shows manipulation, quote it and we'll all look at it carefully. If you're right, more power to you.

> "the ones I was exposed to for a big part of my life I will smell no matter in what disguise they come"

You should have no problem with finding these then, excellent, I'll be awaiting these examples.

> "You were casting some ideas into the air that you thought everybody would agree on, hoping to create some kind of spiritual patriotism this way, and expecting that everyone would follow such a wonderful guy like you from there on, no matter what else you said."

I've always said that I'm like an African American at a Klan rally speaking on racial equality here. I've been actually quite surprised when a few here have agreed with me on some points. I expect no one to follow me, that would be against the message I'm trying to deliver here. All I'm saying is look to that Light within yourself. I say pull your face off the floor from worshiping others and look and deal with life with your own two eyes. Please show me what's so wrong with that message? Show me and all of us as to why it causes so much fear and resistance?

Sorry folks for this thread turning into this. If you want to discuss personality typecasting, just carry on like this isn't here; just jump over this.

Xnun
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(12/15/03 7:46 am)
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Re: Personality Typecasting
YellowBeard, I have no intention of spending the time and go back to all your other posts to find the statements that turned me off, so I will only use examples of your above post of 12/12/03 2:40 pm. I will capitalize the words that I want to put emphasize on.

>THIS GREAT WALRUS BOARD is here for us to find healing and freedom from OPPRESSION< -- This is a phrase that you have been using also on other threads recently. What are you calling this board GREAT for? Because you assume to win the approval of the people coming here, even though first you created your own board because you thought that the Walrus board wasn't that great for your purposes after all? And I think it's also very clever how you threw in the other keywords, "healing" and "freedom" from "OPPRESSION." -- "Healing and freedom? Yes, sure, we want that!! ... But OPPRESSION? ... O my, let's be strong and stand together against those who want to oppress us. Good thing we have YellowBeard to lead us!"

>COMMUNITY during these ROUGH times can be helpful.< -- So, are these times worse than others to stress their roughness? Isn't there again the implication, "These times are so rough on us poor victims. Let's all huddle together, because together we can fight them."

>I feel this is an INSULT to the image of God which dwells equally in all. We should always direct our minds toward this liberating principle within ourselves ...< -- I feel this in particular is pathetic, especially considering the context or reason why you said this. I'll address your concern of being called a sociopath in a few moments. But here it sounds like, "O please, children, let's not insult ourselves. Let's worship ourselves, and I'll show you how."

>Many get all worked up over what he says in a negative way, WHICH IS UNUSUAL CONSIDERING THE FREEDOM HE IS SPEAKING OF is for each and everyone of us.< -- Yes, this is indeed unusual. I wonder why "many" would "get all worked up" when such a wonderful person comes to "this great Walrus board" to teach people a thing or two they might be in dire need of knowing. Really, we all should know better and be grateful that finally we found the leader we were all seeking.

>God bless Brother Username for making the truth known on many issues which have been used to MANIPULATE and ROB us.< -- I hope "Brother Username" feels truly blessed by having won your approval and being no longer in danger of being manipulated and robbed. -- Ahmm ... are gurus (or whoever you were referring to here) the only source of manipulation and robbery, or do we have to look out for others, too, captain?

OK, now let's talk about your fear of being called a sociopath. I have to admit that I don't even know the definition of that term, nor do I know who Hannibal Lecter is. I just have been reading most of your posts and observed your interaction with others on this board. I saw what a brave battle you fought by taking on all the "Yogananda zombie elves" all by yourself, and after that you came back and continued to verbally cross swords with anybody who was willing to enter into a discussion with you, and you seemed to enjoy this immensely (see the "Fight Club" you claimed to have with Punk Yogi). When this personally type thread here appeared, I took the two tests myself and found that they delivered the most perfect description of my personality I have come across so far. (But I guess those tests don't give good results unless you're willing to answer the questions with almost brutal honesty against yourself.) And when I read about all the other personality types, I found this one type that was described as considering "argument as a sport," etc. So I thought, "If there is one person this description would fit, then it is YellowBeard." If you had gone to the link I provided for this particular personality type, and if you had read the complete description there, you might even have been able to take it as a compliment in stead of an insult. Because, introvert that I am, I have a certain admiration for people who can fight verbally as tenaciously as you do -- which, however, doesn't mean that I approve of everything they say. I just appreciate an ability that I don't have. So, there was no insult intended. I was merely asking you to take this test and confirm or disprove my guess. It's fine if you resist this kind of thing. This won't make me call you a sociopath either, because I do have an appreciation for all the different personality types that exist.

bsjones
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(12/15/03 12:24 pm)
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Re: Personality Typecasting
I still think Yogananda was a (F)eeling type ...

(can I get an "Amen" on that? )

Punk Yogi
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(12/16/03 1:58 am)
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>I've always said that I'm like an African American at a Klan rally speaking on racial equality here.

Typecasting yourself, are you? ;-)

YellowBeard420
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(12/16/03 2:02 am)
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> Xnun writes: "What are you calling this board GREAT for?"

The Walrus is the single most concentrated on-line community of people speaking out against the abuses that have been personally experienced in direct relation to SRF. I'm sorry but this board *is* great. The message of what SRF is behind the scenes is being made available to the public here. People who are considering becoming a monastic can be forewarned by the information here. Also people recovering from these abuses (all over the world) can find fellowship here to help deal with these issues (as long as they have access to the Internet). I think "great" is a very appropriate term.

> Xnun continues: "first you created your own board because you thought that the Walrus board wasn't that great for your purposes after all?"

I created my own board because I thought that I might have been banned from this board for being too critical of the guru. I wanted to have somewhere to deal with the issues I was going through, so my board was a back-up plan.

> Xnun: "Healing and freedom? Yes, sure, we want that!! ... But OPPRESSION? ... O my, let's be strong and stand together against those who want to oppress us. Good thing we have YellowBeard to lead us!"

I did my personal therapeutic work here, which is recorded on this board in all of its colorful and embarrassing details. I did this in the open so that others could possibly benefit by seeing the inner workings of this process. I feel that I've moved on from my lingering attachments to spiritual hierarchy. Recently, all I'm doing here is delivering the message of the benefits of spiritual freedom from this "oppression" of spiritual hierarchy.

Who can follow me when my sole message is to not follow anyone? Yes, my tone has been meglomaniacal at times. I'm showing that there is great strength and freedom awaiting those who choose to live their lives by the Light from within themselves. If *anyone* even remotely tries to follow me that Light will dim within them. And thank heaven for that. To follow someone, you destroy that person and yourself. The saying about the blind leading the blind isn't fully true in my view. Even if a person of Self-realization tries to lead, destruction will follow. It always does. All that can be done is to deliver a message. And the listener either chooses to act on it if they want, or to toss it aside.

> "'I feel this is an INSULT to the image of God which dwells equally in all. We should always direct our minds toward this liberating principle within ourselves ...'< -- I feel this in particular is pathetic, especially considering the context or reason why you said this."

You think spiritual equality is pathetic? Do you not respect yourself enough to admit that the Divine dwells in you as much as it does in any one else?

> "'God bless Brother Username for making the truth known on many issues which have been used to MANIPULATE and ROB us.'< -- I hope "Brother Username" feels truly blessed by having won your approval and being no longer in danger of being manipulated and robbed."

I think I made a hasty gender call there. Perhaps it's Sister Username? We disagree on a lot of issues, and I'm in no way above them where they would need or even want my approval. And in such a situation, what's wrong with a pat on the back? They've been at this game way before I ever came here, and I imagine that they'll be at it long after I'm gone.

You say that you can recognize propaganda in any disguise it wears. Well you sure got fooled by SRF. Why is the guru untouchable? Why is he the Second Coming of Christ for you? You may say that he's not, and that he's just a swell guy with some good ideas that you happen to agree with. You think sticking your face on the floor before someone in blind obedience is a good idea? And you're lecturing me on propaganda?

Punk Yogi
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(12/16/03 2:15 am)
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Keirsey Temperament Resources
For anyone interested in learning more about the Keirsey Temperament Sorter, I'm posting the following links...


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Punk Yogi
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(12/16/03 2:56 am)
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To bsjones
>I still think Yogananda was a (F)eeling type ...

"Amen" on that. Sri Yukteswar has the charactersitics of the T type.


You can read more about F/Ts here...
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