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username
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(1/28/03 1:36 pm)
Reply 		Swami title
Why did Yogananda stop using the title Swami?

MastersChela
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(1/29/03 5:29 pm)
Reply 		Re: Swami title
The answer to this is in the Autobiography of a Yogi. When Yogananda returned to India in 1935, his Guru, Sri Yukeswar, gave him the title of Paramahansa (or Paramhansa), which literally means "Supreme Swan" but is more accurately translated to mean "He who floats effortlessly between the spiritual and material worlds". Anyhow, when a swami is given this title, it replaces "Swami" in their name.

Lobo
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(1/29/03 9:56 pm)
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Actually he didn't officially start using it until the late 30's or early 40's. At least that's the information that is put up on the yogananda-dif.org, upon which the webmaster has scanned the actual SRF magazine showing the change, and I think it was, as I said, the late 30's or early 40's.

username
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(1/29/03 10:57 pm)
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I heard this....
that a LA judge, in a court hearing, told Yogananda that since he couldn't prove he was a swami, that he was prohibited from using the title swami.

Apparently, this is in the court records.... anyone have a copy of it?

member108
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(1/30/03 6:31 am)
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That sounds almost silly. The title gives no legal rights so why would the US legal system get involved? Sounds like a rumor or myth. Plenty of people use all kinds of titles these days including Swami and master and guru.

I don't doubt there are stories like this out there but my baloney sensor is going off. Of course in Los Angeles anything is possible!

Lobo
Registered User
(1/31/03 10:08 pm)
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Now don't you go dissin' the City of Angels!

But I agree with you that it isn't a legal title (at least not now, but tell that to Kriyananda after his Bertolucci experience).

In the New Times LA article the author wrote that Daya Mata went to the LA Courthouse and "removed" all the documents concerning the lawsuit involving PY. I don't know how she was able to court off original court documents, copies been readily available and the originals being legal documents, property of the Court; but the claim was made.

username
Registered User
(2/1/03 6:59 am)
Reply 		Re: Swami title
The lawsuit I mention apparently happened early on in SRF life, so it would have been way before daya mata's time. Perhaps someone has a copy of the documents

Lobo
Registered User
(2/1/03 8:31 pm)
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Would that be the Dhirananda matter, in the very early 30's? Also SRFlongago tells us that Nerode apparently also brought a lawsuit against then S.Y, again apparently not having been heard before a judge for reasons on the plantiff's side.

The NewTimes LA article (one of them) is where I got the story of Daya going and taking the original court documents. It might be a bogus story on the part of the paper, but why would they make this stuff up?

Faye came in 31. So maybe she was aware of the Dhirananda suit, and after many years decided to remove any reference to the long-ago lawsuit leading back to PY and SRF?

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