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SpencerTracy Unregistered User (8/17/01 8:15 am) Reply	Who is responsible for the poor state of SRF? While there are some obvious bad guys/gals driving the degradation of the organization, everyone that cooperates and participates in the behavior, even at the direction of management, is partly to blame. There is a wonderful line in my movie “Judgment at Nuremberg:” One of the German judges on trial is anguished by what happened during the war and appears to be trying to understand it. He is trying to figure out if he had any responsibility for the Holocaust. He had been a judge enforcing the laws against Jews and was "torn" about obeying the law versus doing what he thought was "right." He was just doing what his superiors told him to do or standing by while others did the same. Toward the end of the movie he is talking with the lead prosecutor (me, Spencer Tracy) and says, "I had no idea it would come to that!"--meaning the Holocaust. I replied, "You knew it the moment you sentenced the first innocent man." SRF is the sum total of the moral or non-moral behavior of each person. People allow this behavior to continue. Some to keep their jobs, some to gain power themselves, some because of fear of personal abuse, and some because it is the easiest thing to do. One senior monastic told us they know things are bad, but if they complain they would be asked to leave… and they like the life of being a monk. What an honest answer, and how revealing! So how does that relate to SRF’s situation? Well, for people like Sr. Priya, Vishwananda, Satyananda, and other senior people, they keep having to explain and excuse more and more. Even to themselves. These are basically good people but their rationalizations have to get deeper and more complex. These people have even lied to cover up the wrong behavior, almost certainly in their minds to cover and put the best face on SRF. SRF does not need a false image, it should be living the teachings. Whenever someone basically good goes down a wrong path, they sometimes delude themselves into thinking it will just be this once. There are extenuating circumstances. Protecting SRF is important or this case is unusual. It won't happen again. But it just keeps happening. You dig yourself a hole and you get sicker and sicker and sicker. It is a slippery slope and we are seeing the result of years and years of it.
A voice in the supermarket Registered User (6/19/02 6:51 am) Reply	Re: Who is responsible for the poor state of SRF? INDIVIDUAL FOCUS "We share the blame" is one of the thoughts one may come across. FOCUSING ON THE LEADERS, FORGETTING GURUS Others seem to blame things heavy-handedly on the present leaders, Daya Mata and the Board of Directors. They hardly ever seem to take into account what Yogananda and possibly some more gurus did and may still do. GURUS AND LEADERS TOGETHER Are the gurus totally moribund when it comes to guiding and inspiring leaders of the Board too? Some seem to think that; at least they don't write about it. Historically viewed too, is it far-fetched to insist that the guru and the BOD (nuns and others who do as they recall he told, or worse) have a share in what is going on? Honour the one who is honour due, and vice versa. And let us not ignore the obvious.
crogman1 Registered User (8/2/02 5:06 am) Reply	Re: Who is responsible for the poor state of SRF? *Quote:* SRF is the sum total of the moral or non-moral behavior of each person. People allow this behavior to continue. Some to keep their jobs, some to gain power themselves, some because of fear of personal abuse, and some because it is the easiest thing to do. One senior monastic told us they know things are bad, but if they complain they would be asked to leave… and they like the life of being a monk. What an honest answer, and how revealing! This is so true. People think the organization stands alone, that it stands for Yogananda in spite if the moral decay they see. Why is that? People seem to think that nothing can happen to SRF, nothing can go wrong. If the bad ladies abuse people and lie it is for someones training or somehow God's will. What mental rationalization does it require to know and see these things, even have them happen to you personally, and still support the people doing it? A very powerful process I am sure and one filled with direction and ideals from the very bad ladies who have stolen and corrupted the work of Yogananda. Edited by: crogman1 at: 8/2/02 5:07:59 am
member108 Registered User (8/8/02 5:46 am) Reply	Re: Who is responsible for the poor state of SRF? Laziness and cowardness. People want to belong to something and many monastics want to feel the power of being associated with God's special religion. I can't explain the employees as easily as they certainly know where they stand in the pecking order. Maybe they still maintain some illusion that they are serving Yogananda.
soulcircle Registered User (8/10/02 11:22 pm) Reply	a long term householder/employee ALL Here, After talking with a householder, frequent and present employee at mother center, who couldn't stand the bosses......let's call this householder employee Chris (completely ficticious name)...... well folks here's how the medium length conversation went and here's the history in the seventies my wife and i played a pivotal part in Chris comin "on the path." so now fast forward to '02 convocation ~Chris is totally hassled by srf bosses, Chris works for srf, and often has through the years ~Chris hears bhaktananda talk of time when "yogananda sleeps with angels" left him and another hungry person in car and went in cafe and in full view in window, repasted ~Chris said in bhaktananda's talk at convo '02 brother b. finally decided oh well, i will have a good attitude ~with dreamy look in eyes, Chris continued.... ~so Chris has renewed determination to have good attitude toward out of place behavior by srf bosses i left the conversation, feeling that when Chris's time comes Chris's heart will say enough abuse...feeling that the thought needed to come from Chris' heart..... and the same for brother b. who is not so innocent as often portrayed in here our prayers are with all those in these circumstances and times soulcircle
Sydfrukter Registered User (9/12/05 9:13 am) Reply	Re: Who is butterfly responsible for SRF? Hi, Spencer Tracy You ask who is responsible for SRF? That would be me, I guess. Alas and alas again. Years ago I chatted with an SRF nun in Paris. I voiced some stiff critique of SRF ways, and mind you, she agreed in her heart (I hope). Then I toned things down so that she would not get much hurt and embarrassed - and that could very well have been the butterfly who with its wings started the hurricanes that grew by steps and stages afterwards. Hence, it was me! But on the other hand, if I had continued in a sharp-shod way, roughing it, maybe things would not have been different today anyway. If we weigh our guesses of pros and cons, we end up with lack of evidence for both alternatives. But when we have no good evidence to show up or refer to, we have faith. Religious faith is not different.
Sydfrukter Registered User (9/12/05 9:21 am) Reply	Re: a long term householder/employee Ave. Soulcircle, you say something about Yogananda sleeping with angels. I remember Yogananda said (It is in the SRF literature) that when he slept on the left side he saw dark specks around him, dark souls. But then he turned over to the right side where he saw bright specks, bright souls. As simple as that. He could turn around in bed and change the picture. However, he was sleeping with both dark and bright souls around. Let us not forget the complete picture he painted, even though strange. It is not as weird as a Picasso painting or Braque painting from Cubism anyway. Edited by: Sydfrukter at: 9/12/05 9:23 am

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