early notes crogman1 in my effort to complete the Nov '97..

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member108,
i clearly sense the correctness in using strong language for strong patterns of control, fear, indoctrination etc....keep on keeping on!!!!!!!

psychdev and anyone,
email me, and hopefully set up a phone call
--while mother center has been passed off as our spiritual home, there needs to be a warning in clear sight, along the lines of member108's concerns at the front gate
--in your contact with me, i will directly tell you of the hour plus in nov. '97 that i spent in the admin building's library with satyananda and vishnuananda. in vishnuananda's rather quiet presence (sinister at the least, cause just over 24 hours previous in a laypeople-led forum.... he had described the process 15 of us established for one day at richmond, as "simply describable in one word..FELLOWSHIP!!" Now as satya flexed dastardly fearful muscles, tearing my soul with horrific fangs (after i naively said, "vishnu was at richmond these last two days and you, satya, are coming in 5 more days i will describe this richmond forum [spontaneous precursor of spiritual life committees] and be a bridge betwen your two visits!" , chewing my heart and spitting out scraps of what was once a living happy richmond temple secretary, me....vishnuananda's contribution at the end was, "you can still get back to richmond tonight, southwest has great standby."
my intention, and i followed through on this small personal aspect was to meditate long hours in the chapel in the morning, which i did, before leaving L.A.
In my morning meditation in the admin building's chapel i began the process of recovering, that i am still in, from the ........................[<<<you supply the correct syntax, psychdev for the hour of spiritual brutality, that satya, UNAWARES in some respects, RELISHING every moment in others......that satya dished out to me]
your choice of words is awaited friend psychdev

member108, who is the consultant at vishsuananda's side?

believe me all, reach me via email, with a direct email for you that i can respond to, when i click reply on two emails i have received thru ezboard, the reply goes Nowhere

believe me all, via email and my personal phone we can do much more than in here,

there is a fly in the ointment, and member108 is not wide of the mark

toss semantics (i agree the holocaust is the farthest thing from semantics) nonetheless toss some of the debate aside
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as i repeat one other specific story.....one of the two most completely inspiring, quiet and endearing, serving people that i have seen in over 20 years of very gregarious activity on my part at richmond......

one of the two kindest devotees, dreamlike in their calm and compassionate bearing, entered the l.a. ashram as a nun, and in 12 months came out (this over five years ago)
.....came out destroyed and still is destroyed

***********the travesty************

i sat for an hour in a circle of three that nov '97 at 4PM
in a "circle of travesty," a moment when thousands of you were about other things, but a moment, among many, that colored ALL our lives for now and into the future

the soulcircle is my plea as i beg all of you to email me, to stay in touch with me....to trust....to be a part of my healing ....as i am a part of you

and in the long millenia laying ahead of us as yosemite peers into distant ages

satya and vishnu are a part of any permanent true healing
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for now anyone entering the "holy grounds" of san rafael avenue is in desperate need of warning

you often say, without a doubt, that this board is not for new students or members
think again.....the person first setting foot at 3880 san rafael needs some of the info in here AND more
as the foot, as their soul's journey enter the "circle of travesty!"

soulcircle in recovery

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