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soulcircle
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(10/21/02 2:46 am)
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for community ... $1000.00 check
hmmmm

this springs from a thread "How are things going?" in treatment of members/monastics

from the post quoted here, from other posts in that thread, and from a $1000.00 for "community...
feeling and thoughts are both provoked and sought.

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Re: How Are Things Going?
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Part of the damage done by SRF (in the name of Master) is that they steal so many years from the lives of people during their critical 20’s and 30’s. Many monastics give up their lives to serve what they think is Master. They are wonderful selfless souls and they serve their hearts out. By the time they finally give up thinking SRF can be turned into a place where they actually can serve Master, the devotees and grow themselves many years have passed. They have no vocational skills and to be honest have been so abused it is difficult to have the self esteem to roar out into the world and make a go of it.

Part of the damage we devotees do by supporting SRF is to keep this torture factory in operation. I think little is said on this website of the contribution the membership is making to this problem.

Some people might think that Master can be served anywhere, in prisons, in hotel work, in a coffee shop and of course inside SRF. This is true. However most places are not abusing people in your Guru’s name. It is a free country and everyone should have the right to serve their Guru in a way that does not harm other devotees. To pretend you are serving your Master while harming his devotees seems wrong.

Believe me, ALL monastics who have been there five or more years understand the place is no longer representing Master. What do they do with the information? There are many threads here describing their motives. Cowardice, laziness, fear, and of course the desire for power contribute to their reasons for staying.

Any monastic who has stayed through this last 4 years of the Great Purge have given up and will suffer seven life times of searching before they find their Guru again.


Edited by: crogman1 at: 9/13/02 6:13:21 am


now if you go to that thread, or here I have copied it here, you see my babblings and concerns that you so patiently skim...

perhaps as i take a few days to formulate what i have to express, you might well imagine that having a response or two for any of you now, will help me see where there is value in this new thread for more than just me.

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taking some of this thread to topic $1000.00 check
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Hmmmm,

I believe a lot more can be said about how all, and each of the ex-monastics are faring, (is "god-realized" faye wright short on compassion....mother of compassion vs. mother of physical and emothional abuse and isolation).
Let's hear more as you have time.

Two monks who have left in the last 13 months have shared a bit with me. One appreciated a hundred check from me while my checking acct. was briefly and slightly bloated....

(Any nun or monk whom I may help out, who is out.....again whom i may help out, as they have helped all of us in the past, email me <heypoet@aol.com>..if my checking acct. has any of its occassional fat i will send a check)

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The second is either optomistic, in denial, full of support from many/willing to ask for and share support....or most likely a combination of all.
In connection with both these monks.....one of whom I am close to and always will be I will say this.
We are all shattered and spiritually homeless. we are all the follower-a-holics of the srf is the "religion of the new age."

Hi I am Dave I am a devotee-holic formerly slavish to srf.

you all respond....Hi Dave

I say this because though I try to be "clean and sober"/open and heart-guided, I slip, and I do deny the extent of this tradegy.
crogman1 thank you, there is more in your entry that you and other might elaborate on, for example,
.....yes the community is responsible for treatment nuns and monks receive, if not before awareness, after becoming aware of the stories here and in general circulation, certain, crogman1, i agree the community is reponsible, especially those writing any checks to srf.........
pilgrim's entry asks for more insight to nuns and monks who have left situations....specifically to the on writing the post, keep asking..!!!!
...get a more open and complete discussion to begin on this board, and in our hearts and friendships.

I have received a check from a family for $1000.00 for community, from their appreciation for the years I spent giving hospitality within a community and with srf. The check is not for me, it is for "community." There is more to this, a bit more, than I am posting here.

I am starting a new topic about this check, about the walrus board, about community, my family, my life and me. And most importantly about this generous family, and the loving and generous friends and people working outside of organizations and IN their hearts, families, friends and communities.
Many of you mean more to me than you will ever know, sort of like all the 200 children (whom the man i assume is py's child, B. E., and his wife helped on their shoe string budget) must feel towards the couple helping them throughout their lives!
Though i speak of being a srf holic (the AA experience) life is beautiful, with many, including you all, we are moving forward.
crogman1 and pilgrim asking from their heart how are the exiled monastics of srf faring, pls continue.......
...i like it, i love it, i want more of it

soulcircle

Edited by: soulcircle at: 10/21/02 2:28:24 am



i have this check....it is almost as if a new day has dawned....an organization-free circle of friends has $1000.00 to spend....imagine

soulcircle

Edited by: soulcircle at: 10/21/02 9:28:17 pm
KS
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(10/21/02 7:34 pm)
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Re: for community ... $1000.00 check
Are you saying you have a $1000 check you can spend to help people hurt by SRF? You are looking for ideas?

There is already a group formed to try and help monastics transition out of SRF. This is handled in a confidential way so no one is hurt further. If you wish you can contact them at the following website and see what they currently need. Monastics are leaving all the time as are employees. Several more were fired this summer and they may also need help.
geocities.com/tranassist/

History Buff 2002
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(10/21/02 9:08 pm)
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Re: for community ... $1000.00 check
KS and all,
The website you refer to is run by SRF devotees, under the thrall of "everything will be better now, because Vishwananda will fix it."
Maybe they can help ex-monastics. I don't know. But they are still "sleeping" as far as the truth about SRF is concerned.

wholetruth
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(10/22/02 6:20 pm)
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Re: for community ... $1000.00 check
Can you please tell us in plain, simple language minus the poetry why you were given the $1000 check and whom it is supposed to help?

If it was for the Richmond Temple community, the only honest thing to do would be to turn it over to those currently involved with the Richmond Temple. If you intend to use it in other ways, you will have to inform the donors of your intention, correct?

History Buff 2002
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(10/22/02 9:12 pm)
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Re: for community ... $1000.00 check
Walrus, you ask if people are so gullible they think Vishwananda will bring it all back to something wonderful? You better believe they are!
This is my point about the transassist website for exiting monastics. Check it out for yourself. (I don't have the address at hand). But as I recall there is nothing real there, but there is some helpful hints about car loans and stuff. It's almost like it was started by people with feet in both ponds. Or as I said, in deep denial.

soulcircle
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(10/22/02 10:55 pm)
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life without fossil fuel, without poetry..a second grand
Ok the scivvy,

the $1,000. first mentioned has been turned over to srf, as it was always intended, earmarked on the check [heaven help it and us all] for the chapel at richmond..my tears join yours

a second grand has been generated, is non-directed and non-organizational
some of the individuals recipients are care givers and impaired, the able-bodied benefitting from the friendships of the impaired, the impaired benefitting from competent loving care by able-bodied in community

as seen in other posts, one check for $100. has been directly sent to and received by a former monastic after the offer was made here on the "board," and the monastic made the request for monetary assistance via my "enabled" email

and more than ever i am open to ideas

soulcircle

Notice the Noticer
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(6/21/03 11:33 am)
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Donating money to individuals
I feel I have a karmic relationship with one of the male monastics (I'm female, so we have absolutely no contact of course.) A few years ago I had some sort of possibly intuitive flash to send him some money, but I felt quite certain I wouldn't be able to specify that it was for him. At that time I had a lucrative job so I upped the amount of the check and said it was to be used for "the monks' personal needs."

Back then I was still deluded into thinking that the seniors acted sheerly (sp?) out of intuition and guidance, and hoped that if he in fact needed that amount of money, say for some kind of medical costs, that it would be given to him. Probably, it was instead split up evenly among the monks, which I can also live with (as long as it didn't go to building maintenance, software, or litigation costs!)

But since there is finally a place -- god bless walrus -- where we can ask questions about how things actually work within the secret chambers (reminds me of the Great Pyramid), does anybody know whether money even can be given to an individual? Right now I have none; it would be nice if SRF took ME on as a charity project. However, should some come my way, would a check made out to the monk's Sanskrit name be cashable? I do know his so-called "Christian" name, too, so I suppose I could put "or" on the check. Could he accept the donation, though? One male friend of mine sent a nun friend of his an anonymous donation, and she sent it back, saying she knew it had to have been from him. What the heck is up with that?

KS
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(6/21/03 2:47 pm)
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Re: Donating money to individuals
The nuns are basically living in prison. Their mail is read, they are watched while they work, and they have NO life. Not even a spiritual life. The only thing you can do for a nun is to pray that she escapes. What most likely happened is that her mail was read and she got in trouble for someone sending her money. She was told to return it. It keeps them completely dependent on the warden. Very sick.

The men’s side is better. You may be able to get a letter into them. Mark PRIVATE on the envelop and don’t put a women’s name on the return address. You might include a check without a name on it or put their real name on it. For legal purposes like bank accounts and drivers licenses they use their real names. They don’t legally become Balbaloniananda or something.

Remember that they all have email. Their email addresses are monasticname@yogananda-srf.org. So Steven would be Steven@yogananda-srf.org. Satyananda is satyananda@yogananda-srf.org. The senior bad ladies usually don’t have email or a slave reads it. Did I say slave? I meant nun.

Notice the Noticer
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(6/21/03 3:24 pm)
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Re: Donating money to individuals
Thanks, KS. I read your post twice in succession, and both times, laughed out loud several times. This is SO healing!

TheHolySinner
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(6/23/03 9:44 am)
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Edited by: TheHolySinner at: 6/25/03 9:16 pm
etzchaim
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(6/26/03 7:22 am)
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Re: The nuns life
I'm not finding this healing. I'm actually crying. I used to secretly say "MC would would really make a great public park". Now I am going to pray for it's demise.

How could this be happening? I really don't get it. It's like a bad dream.



DefunctMonk
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(6/27/03 2:30 pm)
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Re: Etzchaim
Hang in there, friend, and cry your heart out. Many of us have done the same at some time or other. Try to find someone you can chat with about your disappointment and shock (not Anandamoy or Shivani, but I guess you've worked that out by now). Keep on reading the postings here, but be aware that not all the postings are accurate. Some are misinformed, and some are exaggerations brought on by intense emotional pain, but there's still plenty of good info. Weigh it against your own sense of truth and take in what you're comfortable with. Trust your heart. It's a great b...s... meter.
Also, go and watch Matrix I and II or X-Men I and II or Daredevil (forget the Hulk) or all of them in a row, with a good supply of Starbucks coffee and a boxload of grub from Baja Fresh and a quart of Haagendas Dulce de Leche (or do whatever else is pampering for you).

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