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MastersChela
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(2/24/04 1:45 am)
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Re: Light of Christ Monastery
Most interestingly:

My most recent google search for more info on the Light of Christ Monastery linked me back to the good 'ole SRFWalrus, and thanks to redpurusha's post in another thread, I found an address:

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or contact Burk's Light of Christ Monastery:
1482 Rango Way, Borrego Springs, CA 92004
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Thanks RED!

OM, Amen
MastersChela

Edited by: MastersChela at: 3/18/04 1:00 am
MastersChela
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(2/24/04 1:58 am)
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An interesting bit of Roman Catholic viewpoint regarding the Light of Christ Monastery and their Icon business, from

www.donet.com/~devitt/stories.htm

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A Word About "Monastery Icons" by Fr. Anthony Nelson

The "Light of Christ Monastery" and the Convent of the Virgin Mary in Borrego Springs, CA., formerly the "Gnostic Orthodox" in Geneva, Nebraska (Holy Protection Gnostic Orthodox Monastery and the St. John of Kronstadt Gnostic Orthodox Convent) are "monastic communities" of self-styled monks and nuns. They began in Oklahoma City in the 70's, when their current "Patriarch"—Abbot Bishop George Burke—showed up in town (newly run away in the dead of night from the Holy Transfiguration Orthodox Monastery in Boston, where he had attached himself) calling himself "Swami" something-or-other (I can't begin to spell it).

He had been raised Church of God-Anderson, near Bloomington, Illinois, gravitated to Chicago and loosely affiliated himself with Roman Catholicism. After a while he began attending the Levitt Street OCA Cathedral, and later the Synod Cathedral, where he got himself baptized by Bishop Seraphim. He then migrated to California, where he joined with Yogananda, and worked P.R. for him. Then he went to Boston to Holy Transfiguration Monastery "to learn Orthodox monasticism"—according to him. In Oklahoma City he started a Hindu community that grew to about nine monks and three nuns. One day, in the late 70's, he announced to the brethren that they had "outgrown" the spiritual possibilities of Hinduism, and were going to become Christian. They then constituted themselves as the "Holy Protection Old Catholic Benedictine Monastery of the Primitive Observance." The Swami got himself consecrated a bishop by the self-styled "Old Catholic" bishop at St. Hilarion's Center in Austin, Texas (although he—the former "Swami"—stated categorically that it was unnecessary, because he had been a Roman Catholic bishop during the Middle Ages in a previous life!).

Many may remember this group as having been featured on various prime-time news shows (P.M. Magazine and Real People) in the late 70's/early 80's as constituting the volunteer Fire Department in the little town of Forest Park, Oklahoma, and also as raising ostriches on the grounds of their property. I remember seeing them on television one night while I was living at St. Tikhon's Seminary in Pennsylvania in about 1980, and wondering just what kind of "order" or "religion" they were. Little did I dream that I would come into intimate contact with them only a year or two later when I was assigned to Oklahoma City by the Antiochian Archdiocese.

In about 1981 "Bishop George" decided that they had outgrown Old Catholicism, and they became "Holy Protection Orthodox Monastery." They dressed as Orthodox monks and did the services impeccably well, as George had learned in Boston. Then, in 1985 or so, they remodeled their chapel again and became "Coptic"—serving their own version of the Liturgy of St. James and dressing in a form of Coptic monastic garb. They even succeeded in having Indian and Egyptian Coptic Christian clergy concelebrate with them, falsely claiming various kinds of non-Chalcedonian "Apostolic Succession" - claims which those Coptic Christians accepted without investigation.

I walked in on them one day and found them doing a curious service modeled after Hindu worship, in which they were offering fruit and flowers to the icons of Christ and the Theotokos in their chapel. The prayers were an interesting (although sacrilegious and blasphemous) blend of the Trisagion prayers and Hindu worship. During all of this, they maintained a second, secret chapel on the premises. Here they practiced magical evocation and demonolatry. I received into Orthodoxy several lay persons who were a part of their "secret Order"—coming from various Protestant backgrounds. These particular individuals finally began to wonder if they were really "Orthodox" and "Christian" when, on a trip to Texas with the monks, they saw the monks and nuns bow down before the idol in the Hare Krishna temple in Dallas, and Abbot Bishop George refused to bless the food served in the Krishna restaurant because "it was already blessed, having been offered to the idol." These former members of their cult and one former monk brought to me all of their secret rituals,vestments, history, and associated blasphemous and really frightening materials. It took me well over a year of working with these individuals to get them over their fear of the psychic and spiritual retaliation with which the Abbot had threatened them if they ever revealed the group's secrets. I still have these materials, and they would be laughable in their sophomoric secret-society silliness if they were not so seriously believed and practiced.

The group left Oklahoma under difficult circumstances in regard to legal problems concerning the estate of a novice (son of a powerful state politician) who died in India. All novices were required to make a pilgrimage to India to interview with, and receive the blessing of, one "Mother Anandamoy"—a Hindu holy woman—who must approve them for membership in the Community.

One of their former monks who had left the group and took a job in Oklahoma City (and personally continued their occult practices privately) once made the statement: "Orthodox Priests are like camels. They carry a cargo of immeasurable worth, with no comprehension of its value." The Daily Oklahoman, the largest circulation newspaper in the state, once carried a color picture on the front page of one of it's secondary sections depicting one of their "priests." He was shown sitting at a table during a regional "Psychic Fair" doing a Tarot Card reading.

On another occasion, after I had learned their secrets and forbade my parishioners to have anything to do with them, Abbot George announced during one of his sermons that he, in a previous life, had been one of the Christian Martyrs who suffered under Diocletian, and I (Fr. Anthony) was the Roman who led him to his martyrdom. He also claims that, during a pilgrimage to visit Mother Anandamoy in India, he was killed in a car accident in New Delhi, but because his "work" here was incomplete, was immediately reincarnated in his body and survived.

"Patriarch George" of the "Gnostic Orthodox Church" admitted in an interview in the Omaha World Herald that his
"Patriarchate" covered only 5 or 6 acres. By the way, why they chose Nebraska is a mystery: Abbot Bishop George
announced, following a visit to Hawaii for an international peace conference in approximately 1985, that the Goddess of one of the volcanos appeared to him and promised to give him the island if he would relocate his community there.

Apparently that offer was not good enough because, after first relocating in Nebraska, today they are the "Light of Christ
Monastery" in California. They claim to be the exclusive remnant of a spurious so-called "Western Orthodox Church"
descended from, the Syrian Jacobite (Monophysite) Church of the East.

They have one "iconographer" there who paints all their pictures (please, not icons). All are "blessed" with one of their occult rituals before being shipped, and they support themselves to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars per year selling the demonic things. Many Roman Catholic bookstores sell them but, happily, most Orthodox sellers of religious items have discovered who and what they are and no longer do business with them.

Please don't buy their pictures—they are spiritually very dangerous.




I have a feeling that most of this isn't really an accurate portrail of what's going on there, especially the "domonic secret society" quote... anyhow, just thought this was an interesting addition to add to the mix.

bsjones
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(2/25/04 2:13 pm)
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Re: Light of Christ Monastery
Abbot George does seem to have a kind of pattern of repeatedly "outgrowing" his spirtual practice and moving to something a little new.

I really like his book, and I'm at the point where he is just about to go to India. I can't say that I agree with everything he says, but he seems totally sincere to me.

He has a story that I bet would be of great interest to all those who frequent this board.

redpurusha
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(2/26/04 8:30 am)
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bsjones, glad you are enjoying the book. While I don't see myself joining his group (the standards and rules a bit too strict for me), I have been stongly influenced by him towards vegeterianism, have a clearer picture of Yogananda's mission, and also learned more on Christianity and Catholicism than I would ever imagine. I can't say much more about him because I don't know him. I wouldn't mind meeting him someday, but as has been shown, he is very low-key, which makes him even more likely to be credible. His picture alone, wearing the spooky clothing, would scare most people away.

But don't judge a book by its cover.

MastersChela
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(2/26/04 10:16 am)
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I wouldn't mind meeting him someday, but as has been shown, he is very low-key, which makes him even more likely to be credible


I think you're right about this, Red. The ones who don't make a big deal out of themselves are the ones who are usually the most sincere. Sometimes, there are a the really Great Ones, who are pushed into the forefront in order to make a big wave, but most of the time, the real truth tellers are small to the unseeing eye.

I'm currently waiting on the book from Amazon.com. I'll let you know what I think once it comes.

bsjones
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(3/4/04 11:38 am)
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Re: Light of Christ Monastery
"An Eagles Flight" inspired me to ask a local Catholic church if I could attend Mass. They said sure, but only Catholics could receive communion, and that is a 9-month process. Reminds me a little of SRF's conditions to recive Kriya. This doesn't seem quite right to me, but I don't know. Maybe some of you have had better luck with this. I believe Ranger attends a Catholic church. Please share your experience. Thanks.

ranger20
(3/4/04 12:22 pm)
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"An Eagles Flight" inspired me to ask a local Catholic church if I could attend Mass. They said sure, but only Catholics could receive communion, and that is a 9-month process. Reminds me a little of SRF's conditions to recive Kriya. This doesn't seem quite right to me, but I don't know. Maybe some of you have had better luck with this. I believe Ranger attends a Catholic church. Please share your experience. Thanks.
I think policies of different churches vary widely. What you quote is the norm for Catholic churches, but there is one in town that has no such restrictions.

I've been going to an Episcopal church, which features the liturgical year, communion at every service ("Cathoic without the Pope..."), and in common with most of the "traditional" protestant churches generally specifies communion is open to "all baptized Christians." The one I attend just states that "All are invited to the Lord's table," period. As the priest once said to me, "Can you really imagine Jesus turning someone away because he hadn't been baptized?"

So check around also with Episcopal and maybe Lutherin churches in your area. They tend to have a more "formal" mass, which it sounds like you are looking for (I was). Also, any larger, more liberal Catholic Churches - possibly big city, socially active - which could have relaxed rules.

This practice has made a great positive difference in my life over the last several years. Keep investigatingand I bet that like me, you'll find a place that feels like home.

Edited by: ranger20 at: 3/4/04 12:27 pm
bsjones
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(3/4/04 12:56 pm)
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Re: Light of Christ Monastery
Thanks ranger!

ugizralrite
(3/4/04 3:07 pm)
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Re: Light of Christ Monastery
Quote bsjones:

"They said sure, but only Catholics could receive communion, and that is a 9-month process. Reminds me a little of SRF's conditions to receive Kriya."
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This is a challenge that interests me greatly. I have been thinking that today's seeker has the advantage, scientifically speaking, of having a better over all picture of the source of the kriya yoga teachings. One thing that hasn't changed is the possibility of holding an attitude of being willing to try kriya, to go along with the program with reservations, depending on the outcome. But I can't put myself in the position of today's seeker.

Let me say this much. You have nothing to fear from kriya yoga if you follow your sense of being comfortable. For example, very early on I decided that the "maha mudra" (I think it was called, it's been years.), was not something I was comfortable with. I asked Brother Anandamoy about this, and he said "For you, not doing this is permitted." Another example was the statement that not everyone is suited to dietary fasting on a regular basis.

But I don't know the answer as to how kriya should now be taught. I would like to see it discussed.

As far as the waiting period, it really isn't because the EE and hong sau and OM and 20/20 (was it?) breathing are in fact directly preliminary to kriya. There are numerous approaches to a mystical view of reality in many cultures. Not adopting kriya is definitely not dooming oneself to spiritual blindness. Is it the "airplane route", no, but it may be an "airplane route". The aspiration of the seeker's heart is the determining factor in my opinion.

bsjones
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(3/5/04 11:57 am)
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ezSupporter
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Those are some real good points ugiz.

But don't they make you swear to devote your life to the SRF path, or something like that before they will give you kriya?

ugizralrite
(3/5/04 9:32 pm)
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Sorry Way Off Thread here
I moved post to SRF Teaching and Ideals/Kriya Pledge. Ugiz

Edited by: ugizralrite at: 3/7/04 11:06 am
MastersChela
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(3/9/04 11:19 am)
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An Eagle's Flight
Well, I got my copy of Abbott Burke's book. I must say, it's definitely an entertaining read!

He has a really humorous and biting wit in his description of his upbringing in a fundamentalist protestant church. I was raised in an area fraught with these kind of congregations, although I was raised in a relatively liberal Lutheran church. His discussion about these Churches (and my own Lutheran upbringing) hit very close to home, and I find myself laughing uncontrollably.

In criticism, however, I have to say that after about a third of the book, there's a HUGE problem with the flow of the book. Often, it feels like he's jumping around in time. He also focuses so much on his spiritual experiences that he fails to give enough context to his temporal life and then when he mentions something from the mundane world in passing, you have no idea what he's talking about. One example is when he talks about his mom dying when he was young, and then later mentions his "parents" in some context or another... and because he tends to jump back and forth in time, it's difficult to tell whether he's discussing a time before his mom died or that his dad got remarried and he failed to mention it.

More later as I progress in the book.

MastersChela

bsjones
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(3/9/04 1:00 pm)
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ezSupporter
Re: An Eagle's Flight
In my recent reading, Swami Sivananda just told him that he should become a Swami ASAP, even though he is 22 years old.

His life parallels mine in many ways, though he always seem to jump in with both feet, then switch to something a little different in a few years. Both he and I, and I think a lot of the posters here, are "circumambilating the self' during the course of our lives, so we do keep changing and revisiting "old friends" with updated perspectives. Abbot George probably has done this more dramatically than I. And he has documented it in his book, for which I am grateful.

It doesn't read as well as the AY, but what does?

MastersChela
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(3/18/04 12:07 am)
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More info for Light of Christ Monastery
It seems that Light of Christ has either stopped producing their trademark icons and handed over their collection (and website) over to an outside party, or else they've just decided to let someone else handle the logistics of selling the icons on the net.

The most recent info on the monastery itself that I can find seems to come from their "Lent 2002" catalog, which is avalible in its entirety on Amazon.com via this link:

Light of Christ Monastery Catalog

page 30 contains contact information for the monastery, although I have yet to test if the info is up-to-date (this info discovered after midnight, if you can't tell by the timestamp on the post).

the monastery's website USED to be www.monasteryicons.com, but it seems that the website is now purely for the selling of the icons, has no mention of the Light of Christ Monastery, and lists an address in Ohio for Customer Service. This could be due to what seems like an active effort to boycott the icons by Mainstream Orthodox churches due to the "heterodox" nature of Abbot Burke's teachings.

bsjones
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(3/18/04 11:12 am)
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ezSupporter
Re: More info for Light of Christ Monastery
I was guessing the same thing. BTW I ordered some of their icons and they are GREAT !!!

MastersChela
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(3/27/04 1:40 am)
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Re: More info for Light of Christ Monastery
My effort to contact Light of Christ Monastery is still in the works. I found that the phone number listed on the Amazon.com catalog in question is now disconnected. I called the customer service number on the new catalog I got in the mail, but the person I spoke to on the phone said they didn't have a phone number where I could reach Abbot Burke, only the address, which hadn't changed. This means that the address we've got from the post by redpurusha (corroborated by the amazon catalog) is correct, confirmed by the Monastery Icons customer service lady.

So, I wrote Abbot Burke a letter with my own phone number and email address. I am hopeful about hearing from him or someone else at the monastery.

I'll keep everyone updated!

Lobo
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(3/27/04 10:12 pm)
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Re: More info for Light of Christ Monastery
You might try www.kalimandir.org/ in Laguna Beach, Ca for contact information on Abbot George. On the Kali Mandir website click on Library to read a great article written by Abbot George, the substance of which is an experience of the Mother Divine that he had in India at Anandamayi Ma's ashram.

Also one of the monks of the Vedanta Society at Hollywood www.vedanta.org/ told me that Abbot George is a regular at the ashram. You might contact them directly to see if they have contact information.

Best,

MastersChela
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(3/27/04 10:43 pm)
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An echo in the night!
Today, I recieved an email in reply to my letter to Abbot Burke. I won't share it word for word here, because I'm still rereading it and testing out the waters of his words, so to speak. I must say this, however: I've been uncertain inside myself if persuing contact with him was the right thing for me to do spiritually. This letter was a great confirmation to me that this was the path my soul requested.

He told me to give up attachment to organizations, and to persue my soul's path to whatever end it may guide me to... He seemed sincere, and very down-to-earth... But also pointing me toward God as much as one can in email. It was good advice, for EVERYONE on this board, I think. We cannot put all our hopes and spiritual eggs in someone else's basket. The path to God is unique and tailored to each Soul. A true Satguru knows this, and (as I learned from listening to Roy E. Davis' stories about Yoganandaji this past week) offers a different path for each soul; indeed, is an alltogether different person for each of his/her devotees. The problem with organizations that don't have a living guru is that they have an overall tendancy to solidify into one way of following the guru's advice, one interpretation. It's not that orgs are bad, just limiting in a certain way.

Swami Kriyananda has a wonderful song "Go On Alone," which has become something of an anthem here at Ananda. We should each follow that advice to the best of our ability, even if it means people not understaning you or thinking you're a spiritual flake because your path doesn't seem linear from their perspective. EVERY path is linear, and is clearly so once you take a moment of stillness to look back at where you've come.

In Christ,

MastersChela

Edited by: MastersChela at: 3/27/04 11:13 pm
ranger20
(3/29/04 12:39 pm)
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Re: An echo in the night!
Thanks for the update on your effort to contact Abbot Burke.
Please continue to post whatever you are comfortable posting.
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The path to God is unique and tailored to each Soul. A true Satguru knows this, and (as I learned from listening to Roy E. Davis' stories about Yoganandaji this past week) offers a different path for each soul; indeed, is an alltogether different person for each of his/her devotees.
I am increasingly convinced that this is the truth.

MastersChela
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(4/9/04 9:45 am)
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Name Change
Well, I got a big package of essays in the mail from Swami Nirmalananda (Abbot Burke) yesterday. It seems the reason I had such a difficult time finding them is that they're no longer called "Light of Christ Monastery", but have now taken on a Hindu name, "Atma Jyoti Ashram".

It seems that their teachings are now trying to strike a balance between Christianity and Hinduism, rather than being "strictly" Christian, the way they are portrayed in An Eagle's Flight. Abbot Burke, as noted above, has reclaimed his monastic name given to him when he took Sanyassi vows while living with Ma Ananadamayee, and their literature is much more Yoga- and Indian-focused, with a take much like that of the Divine Life society--that the teachings of Christ were a "watered down" version of the Indian Sanantan Dharma, and therefore, TRUE Christianity is Hinduism.

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