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forkhand
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(3/9/03 4:49 am)
Reply 		Yogananda and L.Ron Hubbard
Dear Readers,

Check out the real life of L.Ron Hubbard. Also check out this site for more info on the teachings of Yogananda and how he was WRONG. - www.pranayama.org

I am comparing Yogananda to L.Ron Hubbard for a few simple reasons. They were both fat. They both set up cults. And they were huge egotists. Also, they shouted at their devotees in fits of anger. They also say things that are false but appear true. And they were shrewd businessmen.

A mars a day helps you work, rest and play
:rollin

stermejo
Registered User
(3/9/03 1:10 pm)
Reply 		Re: Yogananda and L.Ron Hubbard
Forkie, you're goin' DOWN Dog. You got a MAJOR axe to grind. Don't I know it? Sorry you spent some money on books and didn't like it. Wah, wah, wah!

In the meantime, I checked out the web site. Let me ask you this, are you some kind of clown, i.e. , a guy who does things backwards, as in the Hopi Clown Kachina, to whoop up laughs in the crowd?

I went to this site and find NOTHING from Shankara Saranam that denigrates Yogananda. He only has good things to say about him.

You so crazy. I crazier:-) Whoo, hoo!
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Edited by: stermejo at: 3/9/03 1:37:05 pm
prssmd
Registered User
(8/17/03 2:47 am)
Reply 		Re: Forkhand on Yogananda and L.Ron Hubbard
Forkhand wrote: "I am comparing Yogananda to L.Ron Hubbard for a few simple reasons. They were both fat. They both set up cults. And they were huge egotists. Also, they shouted at their devotees in fits of anger. They also say things that are false but appear true. And they were shrewd businessmen."

Forkhand's deep prejudice against fat people is very unfortunate, but all too common. He can't seem to distinguish the content from the container. If he knew anything at all about spirituality he would pay no attention whatsoever to whether a teacher was fat, thin, or of average weight. Actually, prejudice against fat people is no different from prejudice against blacks, whites, or Asians.

ichamberlin
Registered User
(8/21/03 2:50 pm)
Reply 		Yogananda and Hubbard
I beg your pardon? Yogananda and Hubbard? Please. In fact, SRF is on Scientology's "Enemy List" because all organizations that Hubbard copied his "technology" from are on the enemies list. According to Scientology regulations, any Scientology member may cheat, sue, or otherwise harm SRF without any punishment from the Church. That's the only connection I can think of. In terms of the word cult, that is a charged and subjective term and to me does not even merit use. :lol

BTW: I studied Scientology for a while and became quite familiar with organizational policy there. 8)

username
Registered User
(8/22/03 5:38 pm)
Reply 		Re: Yogananda and Hubbard
what teachings of scientology are based on SRF?

YellowBeard420
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(12/7/03 4:07 am)
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Re: Yogananda and Hubbard
Username wrote (8/22/03): "what teachings of scientology are based on SRF?"

The madness and manipulation techniques of Scientology of course overshadow those of SRF's. But Forkhand brought up an interesting issue about there being similarities between the two which might be worthwhile investigating.

Both of these organizations attract the bulk of their recruits in the same fashion. They both use a "fantasy" book sold as non-fiction. These books both use the scientific findings of the day and twist them to support their own conclusions. They also both claim to have the answer to all our life problems. These books are Dianetics and Autobiography of a Yogi.

Daniel E. Martin speaking on a Scientology recruitment video (Skeptic Magazine, 11/02/2k):

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An interesting persuasive technique in the movie was its reliance on statements that used confusing double negatives and falsely attributed goals. For example "Evolution doesn't prove that the mind doesn't have a spiritual basis," or "Psychology hasn't disproven the soul." The movie argued that one needn't know psychology, psychiatry, or self-hypnosis to be successful. One only had to understand the Dianetic approach to life and take the classes offered by the organization.
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Sound familiar? All you need to do is take the SRF Lessons and open your wallet, and you're on your way to Heaven.

L. Ron Hubbard wrote a book on brainwashing before he started Scientology. Also before he started Scientology, he said that the best way to get rich quick was to start a religion. Yogananda had an old friend who confronted him repeatedly asking him how much money he was making. Why did this person keep hounding him like that? Was it because Yogananda had made a similar claim to L. Ron Hubbards?

The first part in the technique of brainwashing is an artificially induced nervous breakdown [Without the aid of the guru, eternal torment in the world of endless rebirth is your fate.], which breaks the line with the individual's past experience and casts him adrift in a sea of suggestibility. This is brought on by exhaustion, confusion, continuous physical pain, and fear and anxiety [aka Kriya Yoga]. This destroys human individuality and identity by fracturing fixed habit patterns and employing the useful fragments, cemented by suggestion, to rebuild an entirely different personality [That of a Yogananda zombie elf.]. Memory is diffused. Logic is confused, and judgement is distorted in the absence of reference and discipline. The person has lost control of his mind -- it is then that suggestion is most effective [SRF needs your money and properties.]. The victim is grateful to be oriented again. He appreciates any purpose or direction given to him. He feels he has been led back to sanity, but in reality his soul has been stolen.

YellowBeard420
Registered User
(12/8/03 8:36 am)
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Re: Yogananda and Hubbard
"Scientology now seems to have offered objective proof (i.e. the 'ScienoSitter') that it is engaged in the use of thought reform. They have distributed software, the so-called 'ScienoSitter', for Scientologists to filter their Internet access. This software blocks Web sites, names or other information they find objectionable (e.g. critics or criticism of Scientology). That is--any outside frame of reference that might discuss or otherwise offer another opinion about Scientology, its founder, leaders or practices that they did not originate and/or approve." (Rick Ross/July 15, 1998)

Another comparison here between SRF and Scientology. It's well know here at the Walrus that SRF monastics' internet use is heavily monitored.

"Information control is a well-recognized facet of thought reform--often called "brainwashing". Totalistic organizations are largely dependent upon controlling information to maintain a mindset (e.g. Nazi Germany, Communist Russia or Mao's China). This is called 'milieu control' -- or control of the environment. ... Scientology's animosity regarding the mental health profession is long established. This too--can simply be seen as yet another example of their intolerance of any outside feedback that might permeate their 'milieu control'." (Rick Ross)

This is not directly related to SRF and Scientology, but on many people's attitudes here at the Walrus in regard to examining the psychology of why we become dependent on spiritual hierarchy. Many here become hostile when their belief system is examined. YellowBeard has opened himself up for all to see for he has nothing to hide. Why does the reader fear doing the same? Scientology is hostile toward psychology because it will cause their house of cards to collapse. Is the reader worried that their belief system will crumble under such examination in the same fashion? If so, why keep such a shoddy thing?

Another comparison between Scientology and SRF is that they both try to appear as scientific approaches, hence the name *scien*tology. The combination of science and theology. SRF does not do this in name, but in deed. We get the science of yoga. But SRF has never been able to show any of these miracles in action that they speak about so often. So where's the science? Science is the act of showing the proof of something. I haven't seen one example of this from SRF or Yogananda. Even though many at SRF and here at the Walrus believe that Yogananda performed miracles, but we haven't seen a shred of proof of this. No pictures or anything of that nature. Science is suppose to be about proof, not rumor and speculation.

The world of Scientology and SRF share another connection as well. A rather chilling one that relates directly to the Walrus. Many Scientology members have been chewn up by the machinery of their organization and broke away from it. These break-away members speak against the corruption of the organization of Scientology, but they still strongly believe in the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard. They project all the problems that they've had with the teachings onto the organization, and they refuse to see that Hubbard just might not be the prophet that they thought he was. Sound familiar? God help you people to wake up.

[Edited to disable emotes. One popped up in a spot it shouldn't have.]

Edited by: YellowBeard420 at: 12/8/03 8:39 am
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