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Bookworm Unregistered User (12/18/01 12:31 pm) Reply	Swami Satyeswarananda Has anyone here read Swami Satyeswarananda's books? What are your reactions? (For those not familiar: Satyeswarananda is highly critical of SRF, Daya Mata, etc.)
username Registered User (12/18/01 9:35 pm) Reply	Re: Swami Satyeswarananda Yes, I have (I've read almost everything I could find on kriya yoga). He is nasty about Yogananda. I have not found his books useful at all and have resold them after I read them (I do this with books I know I will never use as a reference) The books are high priced. Bodhi Tree used book store gets them in occasionally. These books are not worth paying full price for.
Biologist Unregistered User (12/19/01 9:52 am) Reply	Satyeswarananda on Yogananda I was somewhat taken aback by Sateswarananda's overall negative assessment of Yogananda. But he did admit that Yogananda was realized and also a person of remarkable devotional depth. I'm not at all convinced that his book on Kriya is useless for a mature reader, either from the standpoint of understanding SRF as an institution or from the standpoint of the history of Kriya, including, for example, Lahiri's insistence that Kechari mudra be mastered. The book would give a beginner the wrong idea about Yogananda, but people who have been around for a while should be able to appreciate some of his cold water.
Delighted Unregistered User (12/20/01 9:43 pm) Reply	Re: Satyeswarananda on Yogananda Satyeswarananda describes a somewhat different picture of Sri Yukteswar's disciples than what we learn from SRF. He himself attended the YSS school and became a student and disciple of Yogananda's boyhood friend (described in AY) who became Swami Satyananda. He sees Swami Satyananda as Sri Yukteswar's chief Indian disciple and claims to have been trained by him to carry on the lineage of Sri Yukteswar. But he also claims to have been further initiated directly by Babaji after Swami Satyananda's passing. I found his description of this fantastical but also fascinating. The way he describes and writes about Kriya is considerably different than what SRF teaches, with a few similarities. He has published all sorts of documents with translations that he claims are exact reproductions of writings of Lahiri and others. Frankly, I don't know what to make of Satyeswarananda -if his claims are mostly true then he has a lot of fascinating material for western Kriya Yogis. Whether any of it is essential for anyone's spiritual development is another question but the claims are interesting, to say the least. Delighted
Kriyaban Unregistered User (12/21/01 7:21 am) Reply	Re: Satyeswarananda on Yogananda Dear Delighted , From what I believe , Satyeswarananda seems to have some grudge against SRF rather than Yogananda, but he has projected it on Yogananda . The SRF folks in India , for one thing , do not acknowledge even the very existence of these traditional Kriyabans . To me this sounds funny, to say the least , Yogananda was one of the authorized Kriya Masters , who was sent to the west to spread kriya . There were other masters as well , from many lineages . Swami Sri Yukteswar himself had a few other advanced disciples. In the first edition of Autobiography , you will come across a picture of Moti Babu and Yogananda (along with others). Moti Babu is referred in that picture as one of the advanced disciples of Sri Yukteswar . Later editions don't have this picture . Yogananda ,himself respected all lineages and gurus , there is place for everyone here . Whether his disciples have inherited this same respect is open to judgement
username Registered User (12/21/01 9:50 am) Reply	Re: Swami Satyeswarananda Was Yogananda sent to the West? I think he just wanted to go to the west and asked his rich daddy for the money. And, in case you are unaware, the hindu's place Westerners below untouchables on the caste system. Those Hindus living in America of the highest caste when they go home for visits MUST go to the temple for cleansing prior to being allowed into their family's home
Nastika Unregistered User (12/21/01 10:01 am) Reply	Mlechchha That's what Hindus consider Westerners. In fact, any non-Hindu, anything or anybody that lies outside India (all of India is considered holy) is mlechchha. It is an extremely derrogatory term. Basically, it means you're lower than the lowest insect in India. You're worth less than a maggot on a pile of cow dung (well, actually, cow dung is considered quite holy). That ought to give you an idea where we stand. Bet Yogananda never revealed THAT to anyone in America!
Kriyaban Unregistered User (12/21/01 12:10 pm) Reply	Mlechchha Funny thing ,I live in india and have never heard of such things
Gray beard Registered User (12/21/01 7:08 pm) Reply	Re: Swami Satyeswarananda "I think he just wanted to go to the west and asked his father for money." This is not supported by what he wrote in his AY. Do you have any objective evidence to support your claim? If so I'd be happy to read it.
premdas Registered User (12/21/01 8:46 pm) Reply	Master comes west Read Treasures Against Time, the Dr. & Mrs, Lewis Book. Read the letters from Master to Dr. & Mrs. Lewis. Read the 60 pages of letters from Master to St. Lynn in the updated Rajarsi Book. Read Durga Ma's book describing Master. Read Kamala Silva's book describing much of Master's work in the 20's onward. I have access to handwritten postcards that "Swami Yogananda" wrote to his father, brothers and sisters from his "Transcontinental" journey, from Niagra Falls, all the way to Los Angeles. Yes, thank kriyaban Ghosh that he continually funded much of Master's Babaji-driven mission. Did you really read and understand the Autobiography? It's not about him! It's about his gurus' directive to bring Yoga and re-energize Christianity. Read Yukteswar's book, the Holy Science. Thank God Yogananda came to the West, to America specifically. We are blessed. And while we're touching this subject, he said the work was "the true second coming of Christ," that it (the teachings and understanding of Christ) were being born again in each one of us who was ready. He brought kriya to help us. He said while he was in India that he perceived many potential saints among the western brothers, and assisting them to realization was the goal given him by Babaji and Yukteswar. Merry Christ mass, kriyabans & gurubais, everyone!
Fourfourfourfour Registered User (1/21/02 2:44 pm) Reply	Re: Satyeswarananda on Yogananda After spending 25 years after the divorce of my parents asking myself the question, "When everything that can be taken away is gone, what's left?", I met Swami Satyeswarananda Giri. (A stroke of luck I still can't believe) When I met him I immediately felt as if I had come home and my search was over. I spent the next 3 months with him, myself typing the manuscript for one of his books about Sri Yukteswar, while Baba gave voice to the stories about Krishna and Arjuna, which he brought to life in a way that merely reading the stories could have never done. I was not interested in Kriya in the slightest and he never pushed it on me, as if it would make any difference to our being together if I was somehow more like a disciple than an ordinary person. One day as we were sitting in a room facing each other, still informally, the room turned into dazzling intelligent light and I became known as myself, then He and I, then beyond the bodies and minds, then just a spot of intensely compressed knowingness, (beyond subject/object), and finally, I don't know. I don't remember when and where I woke up after having gone unconscious for I don't know how long. At that moment, my question was answered once and for all, never to be unknown (needing to be asked) again. That was 20 years ago. Why am I writing this? To add a human face to Baba, to validate the ability he has to awaken sincere seekers, (in my case someone who had been looking desparately for 25 years under every rock, nook, and cranny, for God, until I couldn't take another breath without him) and because I think it's important that folks don't think they know him because of the distance he keeps from the public. It took me 25 years of struggle to find him, so anyone expecting it should be given to them as easily as joining a group, may be disgruntled at their lack of immediate success, instant access, and the inability to make happen anything that isn't providentially slated to happen. After 20 years I am finally ready to start practicing Kriya.
username Registered User (1/21/02 4:53 pm) Reply	Re: Satyeswarananda on Yogananda Premdas, How wonderful that you have handwritten postcards from Yogananda! How you published them anyplace or is it possible for you to scan them in and show them on this site somehow?
Ed West Unregistered User (3/4/02 6:12 pm) Reply	Yogananda about westerners and Hindus In the tapes of Yogananda released by SRF (and the one by Ananda too), Yogananda says something to the effect of "You (westerners) call the Hindus heathens - but guess what? They call you heathens too!" Funny! -Edwardo West

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