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Anon Unregistered User (3/3/02 8:46 am) Reply	Early YSS history Dear SRFlongango , I have a few questions for you regarding Master's work in India ? Was it ever discussed in MC , how future work in india should proceed ? Also is it true that a few brother disciples of master , tried to sell his Ranchi ashram land without his knowledge , even stealing some very costly astrological bagle which belonged to Swami Sri Yukteswar ? Do you have any recollections of this events. Personally I feel this approach of using lessons is bit of a deterrent in Indian scenario and I wonder if master meant it that way . thank you
srflongago Registered User (3/3/02 9:22 am) Reply	Re: Early YSS history I did not know that rumour. My only vaguely relevant personal recollection is Yogananda expressing repeatedly a desire to return permanently to Mother India with Lynn in the 1937-39 period, before the onset of WW2. At the time of Yogananda's childhood friend Satyananda's removal by Yogananda as head of Ranchi, some false rumours were spread by some followers. I have no idea whether the rumour you mention originated then or at some other time. A start would be to look at Satyeswaranda's books "Babaji Vol III, Masters of the Original Kriya" "Sriyukteswar" to get at least a vague idea as to what happened. He translated bits of Satyananda's book, which I do not have.
Anon Unregistered User (3/3/02 10:50 am) Reply	Swami Satyananda's removal Many actually question Swami Satyeswarananda's version of the story , he does come across as some one who is biased and prejudiced. I was wondering as what might be the reason for Swami Satyananda's removal . Do you know the exact reasons for this ? In the book by Yogananda's brother - Sananda " Mejda " there is a brief mention of some discord over Ranchi ashram Thank you again
srflongago Registered User (3/4/02 4:52 am) Reply	Re: Early YSS history I was really trying to refer you to Satyananda's book. He had a high reputation for probit in India, and it might shed some light on those questions. But I do not have access to a copy.
Pig Ma Registered User (3/4/02 6:37 am) Reply	Re: Early YSS history I agree with Anon's comments- I wasn't sure how much I could believe of Swami Satyeswarananda's version of the story, since his writing sounds like he has a chip on his shoulder. This may be true or false, but I haven't a better way to find out. Despite the fact that he lives in San Diego as I do, he has never returned my phone calls or emails. I never thought of getting Satyananda's book. Hopefully, if it is available, it's also in English.
surfer Unregistered User (3/4/02 7:56 am) Reply	history www.yoganiketan.net/sriyukteswar/
srflongago Registered User (3/4/02 8:10 am) Reply	Re: Early YSS history AY footnote says Dhirananda's Kriya master Kebalananda had a biography or autobiography, probably in the middle 1940's, and I also have not been able to locate it. This and Satyananda's are probably in Bengali only. If anyone locates them I hope they will mention them on this site.
willy1080 Registered User (3/4/02 8:40 am) Reply	Re: Early YSS history There is a biography of Swami Kebalananda and also a book , Yogananda Sangha ( a biography of Yoganandaji ) , both by Swami Satyananda himself . Unfortunately both these books are in bengali . They are available with Sevayatan ashram , from Jhargam Midnapore -West bengal (P.Code 721514) . However ,IMHO, Swami Satyananda was such a dignified person that I wonder if he must have really thrown light on these incidents . It seems to me that till the very end of their lives, both Paramahansa yogananda and Swami Satyanada must have kept respect and friendship for each other . This whole matter seems to be some misunderstanding created between them . However the question remains , did Swami Satyananda leave on his own accord or was he removed ? As Swami Satyeswarananda "claims" in his books , Swami Sri Yukteswar intended Satyananda to be the " leader of the east " ( I can't figure out what that really means ) ,probably it might mean that Swami Satyananda might take charge of the Indian work . However if this is true , then it puts the entire issue in a different perspective . We , now , know that kriya was slightly modified by Yogananda . Was it planned then , that Kriya should be taught in its "traditional" format in India ? Edited by: willy1080 at: 3/4/02 11:46:02 pm
Gunga Din Unregistered User (3/4/02 8:58 am) Reply	Re: Early YSS history There is an interesting post I came across during a google search , at groups.google.com/groups?...com&rnum=2 This might throw some light on this issue . Thank you
srflongago Registered User (3/4/02 11:12 am) Reply	Re: Early YSS history Thank you very much for the references. I will get the books and have them translated.
watching Unregistered User (3/4/02 1:57 pm) Reply	witings Be aware the writings are covered under international copyright law. Swami Satyananda had only passed away in year 1971 and left clear registered copyrights to the president of Sevayatan. Current president of Sevayatan is a dear friend. Many of us are very willing to spend whatever necessary to protect the writings from exploitation, either in the USA or in India.
srflongago Registered User (3/4/02 4:04 pm) Reply	Re:Unnecessary worries I often have translations made to verify historical references in cases where the language is not a language I read, if the content would be useful in preparation of an article or book. I neither had, nor would ever have, any intention of publishing any version of Satyanada's work. Rough private translations by research assistants for research purposes do not violate copyrights and are a standard practice. It would be nice if those who held the copyright could make and publish in hardcover a good translation. But it would be a financial loss to them to do so because of the small market. Perhaps they can eventually put translations on the net, like those on the estimable YogaNikatan site. I assumed that Satyananda was under copyright due to Satyswarananda's exclusive use of brief legally acceptable quotes when longer quotes might have clarified thimgs.
srflongago Registered User (3/4/02 4:26 pm) Reply	Re: Early YSS history Are the Satyanda and Kebalanda books available in Hindi as well as Bengali?
willy1080 Registered User (3/4/02 7:14 pm) Reply	Re: Early YSS history Dear watching , What we are looking for here is a accurate version of what exactly happened in those years ,maybe those books might give us some vital clues. It is obvious , that both Sw.Satyeswarananda and the folks from YSS have reasons for giving their own version of the story. There has been gossip in the past of some disciples of Swami Sri Yukteswar trying to sell the land at Ranchi, stealing an astrological bangle belonging to Sri Yukteswar .These stories have their origin from YSS gossips circles. Swami Satyeswarananda , on the other hand, potrays events in entirely different light , he does sound partisan and one sided . What we need here, is information which is unbiased in nature. People do generally twist information to suit their narrow purposes and its important to get an accurate version of these events. Dear SRFlongago , these books are only available in Bengali . There is another book , a biography, of Swami Satyananda by some one called Chakravarti , which is available at Sevayatan. Unfortunately ,this book ,too is published only in Bengali. Edited by: willy1080 at: 3/5/02 11:10:32 pm
srflongago Registered User (3/4/02 8:41 pm) Reply	Re: Early YSS history Thank you for your information. It is not a great problem for me to have rough translations made, so if the Ashram will accept orders, I will find out what was said about these topics. Others contributing to this site may well read Bengali and have the books. If so, they could answer the questions raised now. I have found that with a little persistence, the facts in hard to get books can usually be ascertained. There will be other copies floating around in the used book trade of india on occasion, if there is no better source. I have obtained remarkable rare books on Kriya through the several thousand used bookstores here. I am quite happy to take Satyananda's word for his experiences at Ranchi, and Kebalanada's word for his experiences with Dhirananda and Yogananda. These are most honorable Kriya masters. I just want to know their accounts. Edited by: srflongago at: 3/4/02 8:44:22 pm
willy1080 Registered User (3/4/02 11:36 pm) Reply	http://www.aannesha.com You could try this website www.aannesha.com Try contacting this people by email , they are a very helpful bunch. They can try and source bengali books for you. I came across 2 books which are written by Sri Panchanon Bhattacharya at www.aannesha.com/showcate...t_id=A2253 Best of luck Edited by: willy1080 at: 3/5/02 12:45:06 am
srflongago Registered User (3/6/02 8:06 am) Reply	Re: http://www.aannesha.com This is a terrific source. Thank you very much!
willy1080 Registered User (3/6/02 10:09 pm) Reply	Re: http://www.aannesha.com Here is something more I discovered , www.aannesha.com/showcate...t_id=A2255 Jogibar Barodacharon Majumdar is a disciple of panchanon bhattacharya Another place to write is Parabaas Webzine at parabaas@hotmail.com They can handle queries by email and are extremely helpful. Edited by: willy1080 at: 3/16/02 8:42:18 am

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