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KS Registered User (10/3/02 7:42 pm) Reply	Superiority of SRF I have seen several messages lately concerning the SRF ideal that they are the ultimate superior religion. On one hand they preach that all religions are based on the same principles but that SRF is the “airplane route”. This of course means better than other religions. Looking back on my own experience I see this ideal very clearly and am somewhat ashamed I was so taken in by such an obvious cult sign. This is one SRF flaw that the membership as well as the monastics help to perpetuate. Does the membership learn it from the monastics? I can’t say. I believe it is certainly human nature to feel the need to belong to the best, the most special, the highest. Putting our monastics up on a pedestal, or even believing they are close to God, is probably part of this same flaw. One dark side of this SRF believe is that when one backs away from the church they have automatically fallen. Monastics that leave are thought to suffer life times until they get another chance at a religion like SRF. (What arrogance!) Member who quit employment or volunteering are to be pitied for their weakness and left “behind”. I talked to a senior monk one time after Brother had left and this senior monk said that it was like losing a soldier in a battle. “But we must be strong. Some will fall. We need to close ranks and continue.” A belief in superiority is no doubt one sure way to pick out the cults from the true paths to God. Master must be turning over in his grave.
gardendiva Registered User (10/3/02 10:27 pm) Reply	Re: Superiority of SRF How totally ridiculous the whole position SRF has taken! No different than any other organized religion that believes heaven belongs to them. Beliefs are meaningless to me anymore. They have nothing to do with one's own perception of Truth. So, what "proof" does SRF have that people who leave are destined for suffering?! Did the angel of the Lord come down to them in a vision and tell them that?? And what does anyone elses vision have to do with a different persons spiritual journey?? What utter nonesense. Sorry, don't mean to get carried away, but I'm so tired of fanatics....(how un-Zen of me, but oh well, these are the thought's of mine that I'm observing).
legspinnr Registered User (10/4/02 12:33 am) Reply	Re: Superiority of SRF How unutterably appalling of them. You are right to suffer such crippling doubt and mistrust of them. They must have robbed you of thousands of pounds to fill their own, overstuffed pockets!!!!!!! Or not, as the case may be. Watch out for their lethal assassination squads, though. They say some very nasty things. In God, Fernsy
gardendiva Registered User (10/4/02 7:44 am) Reply	Re: Superiority of SRF Fernsy... Perhaps this isn't the right message board for you. You seem to want to be very sarcastic and trivialize anyone else's experiences with this organization. If you have some valid comments to make, some questions to ask people (in all sincerity and without judgment) then do so. But if all you want to do is tell us what babies we're being or how we shouldn't be in tune with our own experiences and use them as guides, well, it's rather immature.
Gitano no divino Registered User (10/4/02 8:22 am) Reply	Re: Superiority of SRF Gardendiva is the voice of wisdom on this board. Fernsy, you can rant all you want, but apparently you fail to realize that by making a sarcastic fool of yourself in the process, you completely undermine your own arguments, such as they are (and they fall far short of my standard for arguments). I, we, certainly entertain and value contradiction and difference of opinion on this board (in this way we divorce ourselves from the SRF mindset), but you're going to have to do a better job of formulating and presenting your opinions. Giving those with whom you disagree a verbal "Bronx cheer" is not in any way, shape, manner, or form persuasive. I should say that SRF chauvinism has been embarrassingly obvious to me for years. This is supposedly THE religion of the New Age (whatever or whenever that is). I remember at a "satsang" (what a joke!) with Daya Mata years ago in Pasadena, she said, "Everyone thinks their guru is the best . . . but my guru really is the best." Not surprisingly, this brought the house down, and sustained applause erupted from the enchanted multitude. I, however, remember being very disappointed. Here was an opportunity for SRF to take the high road, and instead it took the low. Of course, now I fully realize what this is all about. Both SRF and Anan-a are in the BUSINESS of selling Param[a]hansa Yogananda. It's just that simple. This sales pitch of hers was no different from one any person might use to promote clothing, cars, or breakfast cereal. It has nothing to do with idealism or "correct attitude." I continue on in the faith that one day, perhaps soon, we will have a fuller and more richly textured understanding of just who and what Yogananda was and what he did. When that day dawns, in my opinion, it will be harder to sustain the proposition that he was divinity in the flesh or "the best" guru. And as I have said before, if a teacher can be judged by the character of his students and the quality of an institution he established, then SRF and its leadership provide ample reason to question PY's bona fides. Edited by: Gitano no divino at: 10/4/02 6:29:53 pm
srflongago Registered User (10/4/02 12:28 pm) Reply	Re: Superiority of SRF:Fernsy again Being trained at Oxford, a wonderful place for rational debate, and still a decent European style university, you must be aware that sarcasm is not a form of rational communication of content, but rather is coercive or dismissive in intent. What purpose does yours serve other than satisfying your needs for emotional outpouring? Why write so as to make those you address dismiss you as someone of no depth? What objective do you have in mind?
member108 Registered User (10/4/02 9:41 pm) Reply	Glendale Who can forget the Glendale analogy? Those in SRF are way ahead of the pack! Just getting to the state where you want to be part of SRF means you are already in Glendale (almost to your goal).
crogman1 Registered User (10/10/02 6:16 am) Reply	Superior I watch what they do and not who they claim to be.
pschuppe Registered User (10/10/02 9:50 am) Reply	Re: Superiority My response to the "we're better" mentality so common in the world, and, unfortunately, also in some organizations, is not to chime in with the loud chorus--but simply to say: "Better or not, this path is mine." This is right and best for me. There is no judgement or condescension implied. One doesn't often hear disparaging comparisons between various mothers on Mothers' day. Motherhood is not generally thought of as a competitive sport. It's enough to say she's mine--she's the best! Why compare gurus? Is he/she yours? Then he/she is best for you. ps

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