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HUM Unregistered User (8/3/01 4:23 pm) Reply	Fear of Member Employees Why would they decide not to have members in their computer department? I understand that they fired several of their computer people and transfered out any members who worked on some of their computer systems. Why would they be afraid of members? Why would they trust outside non-members, even without knowing them, over members. Why would there need to be a policy of not hiring members anymore? That is sure disappointing! If anyone has any more specifics on this policy I would be interested to hear it. Maybe someone can also explain it.
LoyalD Unregistered User (8/9/01 7:22 am) Reply	I can verify I can verify that they have fired a number of computer department people. It was unrelated to their computer work, but rather because these people were critical of recent disturbing actions in Legal and Accounting. But mother center has not decided to remove all members from the computer department. Members can no longer hold positions which would give them access to what mother center feels is “sensitive” information. It is interesting to note that access to member information, donation records, addresses and counseling information is not considered part of this “sensitive” information. Access to the debits/credits in accounting is very much considered part of the sensitive information. Why would this be?
Deep2 Unregistered User (8/20/01 8:34 am) Reply	Fear of Members --- to HUM mother center is afraid that members will tell the world about what goes on behind closed doors (on behalf of Master). They don't want their behavior criticized. The simple solution is to keep them from knowing or being involved. Does it make sense to anyone that the best thing for SRF is to have non-members involved in things?
No BS Unregistered User (8/20/01 8:46 am) Reply	Fear Yes, it makes great sense to me to have non-members involved in things. It may help sanity and non- cult-like thinking to gradually creep back into SRF. Alas, I am not optimistic about any progress being made any time soon. Certainly not until the senior monastics are gone. And with Mridani coming on the board, well, we may be in for some more years of "us against them" thinking.
YogiBear Unregistered User (9/29/01 12:18 pm) Reply	Not what you think They are not getting non-members involved in things in any other than a subservient way. They allow them support roles, not leadership roles. The core group of fearful immature nuns is still firmly in control. Make no mistake of that. They just pay them well to keep them and keep them quiet. One non-member women employee makes $200/hour while the member employees in the nuns areas scrape by on $12 to $15 / hour.
Reporter Unregistered User (10/30/01 3:25 pm) Reply	Fear of members This is unbelievable to me. They fear the members? What could they possibly do to harm the work? Steal money? Do they really think they are going to steal something? What? I can't imagine what it could be. Are they afraid that we "reporters" will tell what they are really like? Is that the main fear?
KS Unregistered User (11/23/01 12:23 pm) Reply	Fear of Members? They fear members will talk about what it is like on the inside. They are tired of the suggestions (viewed as criticism by them) members seem to want to provide on how to improve things and act toward the membership.
Musicman Unregistered User (11/30/01 10:27 am) Reply	Simony When I first heard, months ago, that two high-ranking computer specialists were fired for "insubordination" (and without any further explanation) because they refused to sign off on the Peoplesoft program, the first word that came to my mind (for whatever that's worth--not much probably) was: Kickback! This is the way the corporate world works, at any rate. The Gang of Four (Uma, Mrinalini, Daya, and Ananda Matas) chooses Peoplesoft, and Peoplesoft lines their pockets in return. I'm not saying this happened, but it's a tasty fantasy. One fairly recent posting mentioned that Daya Ma "was observed" heading into a bank just before Convo to make a large deposit. If this truly happened, wouldn't you have loved to be a fly on the wall so you could see where the money came from and whose name was on the deposit slip? Pay to the order of--Faye Wright! Well, dream on . . . Edited by: srfwalrus at: 12/16/01 6:05:27 pm
Crog Unregistered User (11/30/01 11:34 am) Reply	Karma I think it is really funny that someone saw Ma walking into a bank that day (I heard it from another good source myself). Karma works! They can't even lie about why she didn't go to Convocation without getting caught in the lie. This drama can be fun to watch. Don't they even read their own literature? They will pay for their own bad actions.
Crog Unregistered User (11/30/01 11:40 am) Reply	Deposition By the way, I read recently that Daya Mata was finally being deposed for one of the lawsuits. Lying during a deposition will land you in jail, even if you are lying to protect Master’s work (in your own eyes). I hope her lawyers are explaining what “is” is and subtle details like that. We know that Ananda Mata was creative on the witness stand (and ruled an unreliable witness) so let us hope they learned a lesson. My kingdom for a copy of the audio tape of that deposition! SRFWalrus: Not really edited, just removed a bad graphic. Edited by: srfwalrus at: 12/16/01 6:06:32 pm
Musicman Unregistered User (12/17/01 10:50 am) Reply	Deposition Delicious news, Crog. I suppose Ananda Mata could plead incipient Alzheimer's, but Daya Mata would seem to have run out of excuses. She sure tried hard enough to dodge this. You don't suppose she has anything to hide, now, do you?
member108 Registered User (5/14/02 6:08 am) Reply	Re: non-member employees I am amazed that SRF and other people would think it was a good idea to hire non-members over members. One comment was that it may help them move away from cult thinking? While true it will also turn it into any other organization like maybe K-Mart. Are we going to have blue light specials on the lessons and books? I hope that they reverse this triend. I wonder how common the knowledge of this non-member practice is? Does the membership know? I didn't know. Is it really true? What kind of jobs do these people have? Do they review sensitive letters or approve people for Kriya? What is next? Non-member monks?

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