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Rigiditananda Unregistered User (11/20/01 1:23 am) Reply	Looking for good ideas I want to mention a few things about the loyalty issue, and at the end ask your help.... 1) Most sects, religions, churches and cults have manipulated their members with the "loyalty issue -- it is a hi I want to mention a few things about the loyalty issue, and at the end ask your help.... 1) Most sects, religions, churches and cults have manipulated their members with the "loyalty issue -- it is a historical disease. SRF is not an exception at all. 2)This form of manipulation is very effective and powerful, because behind the "you are disloyal" is the silent accusation "you are a traitor" -- who wants to be a traitor? you know. That is the most horrible label we can hang on someone -- churches use it, silently, but they use it! 3) This is why, among other reasons, it takes so long and it is so painful to get out of a cult. 4) What true loyalty means? It is a very difficult question to answer, because loyalty can take many strange forms. Like, fighting to help SRF to improve in a certain area -- management or the teachings -- can be a form of very high loyalty. The paradox is that this fight may need in fact confrontation, and even public confrontation if those running the organization are too stubborn. However, if our intention is to help and not to destroy SRF I personally think that we are expressing a very high form of loyalty. We are even taking personal risks to create that change and to help the future SRF generations -- which can be many millions! 5) If Master was right, and there are millions to come, may be we need to do something for those millions. I personally think, and I have expressed it many times in this board, that the root of all SRF's evils is in the teachings -- the rest are details and symptomatology. Can we change the teachings? Of course we can! All is possible! 6) But some do not believe this theory. They still think that the teachings are quite harmless -- they are dreaming! Cult teachings are dangerous. And SRF's teachings are VERY dangerous -- especially because of the way they are communicated in the Lessons and books at this present historical moment. It is just that they have not thought deep enough about the problem, or that a more pragmatic, less idealistic personality has protected them -- 'till now! 7) I and others have been criticizing the teachings, quite effectively I think at "Core issues / are the teachings safe?" I suggest you read there. I will not go into that now. Can we change the teachings? I pass the question to you. I have some ideas, but I want to see if we, together, can device other ways. Can we modernize the teachings? Do you have any idea how to accomplish this? Millions in the future will be grateful to you and me if we come up with a good idea. Please, let us brainstorm about this... The teachings need to be modernized, urgently! And, we are among the first in the planet to understand this. How can we do it? I ask myself. Can we use internet in some way to accomplish this goal? Do you have any idea? Please share.storical disease. SRF is not an exception at all. 2)This form of manipulation is very effective and powerful, because behind the "you are disloyal" is the silent accusation "you are a traitor" -- who wants to be a traitor? you know. That is the most horrible label we can hang on someone -- churches use it, silently, but they use it! 3) This is why, among other reasons, it takes so long and it is so painful to get out of a cult. 4) What true loyalty means? It is a very difficult question to answer, because loyalty can take many strange forms. Like, fighting to help SRF to improve in a certain area -- management or the teachings -- can be a form of very high loyalty. The paradox is that this fight may need in fact comfrontation, and even public comfrontation if those running the organization are too stubborn. However, if our intention is to help and not to destroy SRF I personally think that we are expressing a very high form of loyalty. We are even taking personal risks to create that change and to help the future SRF generations -- which can be many millions! 5) If Master was right, and there are millions to come, may be we need to do something for those millions. I personally think, and I have expressed it many times in this board, that the root of all SRF's evils is in the teachings -- the rest are details and symptomatology. Can we change the teachings? Of course we can! All is possible! 6) But some do not believe this theory. They still think that the teachings are quite harmless -- they are dreaming! Cult teachings are dangerous. And SRF's teachings are VERY dangerous -- especcially because of the way they are comunicated in the Lessons and books at this present historical moment. It is just that they have not thought deep enough about the problem, or that a more pragmatic, less idealistic personality has protected them -- 'till now! 7) I and others have been criticizing the teachings, quite effectively I think at "Core issues / are the teachings safe?" I suggest you read there. I will not go into that now. Can we change the teachings? I pass the question to you. I have some ideas, but I want to see if we, together, can device other ways. Can we modernize the teachings? Do you have any idea how to accomplish this? Millions in the future will be gratefull to you and me if we come up with a good idea. Please, let us brainstorm about this... The teachings need to be modernized, urgently! And, we are among the first in the planet to understand this. How can we do it? I ask myself. Can we use internet in someway to accomplish this goal? Do you have any idea? Please share.
soulcircle Registered User (2/23/03 4:59 am) Reply	perhaps we're ready to chew on this Guests and All, Now that we may be completing the letter to Ronald [see purpose of the board, letter to Vishwa], maybe this will be our next snack to chew. that is after someone has a few choice jokes, to keep us from taking ourselves seriously soulcircle

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