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Reporter Unregistered User (9/24/01 8:52 pm) Reply	Learning If some people read the Autobiography, feel inspired, and take the Lessons, then later get more involved with SRF Management and become discouraged with SRF and quit meditating, what lesson are they to learn from the experience? What should SRF learn? What should we who observe it learn?
Kevin Registered User (3/1/02 8:31 am) Reply	Monastic learning? Somehow I feel like I am wasting my time but...hey... it's my time. Dear Monastic Monitors: I say monitors because most likely, if I know SRF well, it wouldn't trust just one person to do the job and be exposed to such dangerous free-thinking, who knows? Maybe, among many 'bad' things there might be some insidious tiny little truth that may affect the monitor. Let use more so they can tell each other how naughty the surfers are and write beautiful reports to the directores about it. Sri Yukteswar said in the Autobio.of a Yogi (AY) that even a child can be God's instrument and Master said that Sri Yukteswar himself would humbly listen to any criticism and ask himself if there is any truth or hint of truth in it. Sometimes your enemies are your best friends. My prayer for you is that one day you will ask yourselves why people who loved SRF so much are forced to hide behind the web to be able to express doubts, fears, or ask sincere questions. Oh...sure, we are not learned in Master teachings as you guys are, not so trained, not so well-versed into 'SRF legacy and tradition' (we don't have figured it all out, we don't have all the answers) but if you just had listened a bit to us as to brothers and sisters, with humility and love, if you had sincerely tried to improve SRF responses just a bit! What a difference that would have made! People of old erected the Great Wall of China and it seems you are doing just the same, you are building one all around SRF using the bodies of countless devotees and monastics as bricks and mortar, these bodies might not be totally made of flesh and bone but are bodies non the less, emotionally and mentally crucified by you.
Sydfrukter Registered User (9/13/05 11:59 am) Reply	Re: Learning Hi Reporter - and others I went through quite the same thing as you etch out, Reporter. I grew to be aware of discrepancies or dissonances between things in the AY and what happened. It was disconcerting. Had no one to turn to then. Long ago. Left SRF for good too. Had they listened to me and taken my very gentle counsels, I could have stayed. And SRF would have been a better place - for me at least. I did not quit meditating, but left SRF. The lesson: SRF is to blame too - they have to present Yogananda as he was, not change his words, not suppress them either, and give the whole, many-faceted picture. There is still room for explanations and comments, imo. We should learn not to expect a perfect church, and not to focus on the personality of Yogananda, not focus on the words he said that serve the "church mafia", but find other sayings to claim as central instead. He said many things, often they were things opposed to each other. A careful study of his sayings when younger and when older reveals that. He drove off from teaching "divine selfishness" to "unselfishness", for example. His talk slid from "Self" to "God", which denotes a difference of focus - from I-ness to you-ness, roughly said. Or, as Marshall Govindam has found: ----- "After five years of effort in America, beginning in 1925 . . . Yogananda began to modify and adapt his teachings to the West . . . to overcome the . . . resistance of Christians who were suspicious of the foreign teachings of a Hindu swami. As a result, Yogananda began to enjoy remarkable popularity. . . . However, in his attempts to attract Westerners to the path of Yoga, he tended to focus on the miraculous, and most readers of his "Autobiography" come away with many romantic notions of the path. They are left with many unrealistic expectations." - Marshall Govindam. www.babaji.ca/english/babaji_2.html ----- I find nothing wrong with what Govindam has learnt there. Edited by: Sydfrukter at: 9/13/05 12:00 pm

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