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needthestar
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(3/11/04 1:53 pm)
Reply 		Hot Spots = Chakras?
I'm hoping someone here can point me in a particular direction.

I am experiencing "hot spots" on my body. It's as if there is a hot iron close to the skin...but under the skin....in the body.

I've had it in my legs and also in the rib cage area.

Does this mean anything? Does it possibly have anything to do with my chakras or possible blockage of them?

I know nothing on this topic, but I do know that something's amiss here...can someone help?

Thanks

etzchaim
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(3/11/04 2:56 pm)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
needthestar, the main places where psychic heat will burn that is connected to the Chakras is along the spine - and the feeling of heat is more centrally located and towards your back. This is connected to the Kundalini energy, as it 'wakes up' and rises. It can heat up anywhere along the spine and sometimes feel like it is in the front, as well. Sometimes it will move, and sometimes feel like it is moving up in a 'serpentine motion' (this means you are either to far on the right or the left - emotional or rational - and the energy is not in the Sushumna nadi). If you are feeling it in your ribcage, is it like a ball of heat around your heart area, or is it in your side?

There are minor chakras in the feet and in the palms of your hands, and in the legs, there are levels of reality called "Talases". I'm not sure if I'm spelling that correctly. Above the head is the Karunas. Both of these can be felt at times, depending on what is happening. Much depends on the intensity of the heat and whether it is centrally located or not and moving in a straight line or not.

Often heat is felt when blockages are being removed by some spiritual work you have done or some realization you have attained.

You might want to do a search on "Talas" (mabe narrow it down with other words, like "heat" or "yoga", or "hindu". I'm much more familiar with spinal heat. It's more unusual to have it in your legs. I remember only that the Talases have something to do with pre-human lives, not that that will help you much, or if I'm even remembering correctly!

Somewhere on the Walrus, Dawnrays posted a URL for a site on Kundalini phenomena. I'll try to remember what it is, or at least the main word in the URL, but I can't promise that there will be something on heat in the legs on the site.

needthestar
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(3/11/04 4:23 pm)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
Etz -
Thanks for the response. I wasn't sure if this was just something physical or actually something caused by a spiritual/chakra related incident.

Yesterday I just had this burning sensation in between my shin and calf....it wasn't muscular, but an intense heat, as if there was an iron a few inches away. But like I said it was inside...I couldn't feel any extra warmth by touching the skin.

On the torso I've felt the same heat...and it has gotten pretty strong. Regarding the ribcage, it's usually off to the side, I can't recall it being right in the center of the chest at any time.

"Often heat is felt when blockages are being removed by some spiritual work you have done or some realization you have attained"

Can these realizations be subtle, or even subconscious? I've been going through some trying times...especially spiritually, but yet feel like a light has turned on...not sure if this makes sense. I guess I'm saying that although times have been tough I'm gaining some focus on previously uncertain areas.

I'm also wondering if Hatha yoga might help? I delved into hatha last year, but my practice was interrupted and am hoping to pick it up again soon. I enjoyed it very much - just wondering.

Thanks Etz. I'll do a search. I was hoping you would post as I know you're very knowledgeable. You're much appreciated.
*NTS*

etzchaim
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(3/12/04 6:18 am)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
I found the page:

www.elcollie.com/st/st.html

Only able to glance at it this morning - there is a good deal of info on heat issues.

Anyone practicing Yoga or mysticism of any kind should check out this page as it brings up many of the potential issues and problems that can occur during awakenings. Every persons experiences will be different, as is made quite clear.

Peace,

Etz

etzchaim
Registered User
(3/12/04 6:53 am)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
Found something:

talatala chakra: (Sanskrit) "Lower region." The fourth chakra below the muladhara, centered in the calves. Region of chronic mental confusion and unreasonable stubbornness. Corresponds to the fourth astral netherworld beneath the earth's surface, called Tamisra ("darkness") or Talatala. This state of consciousness is born of the sole motivation of self-preservation. See: chakra, loka, Naraka.

from: www.himalayanacademy.com/...con/t.html

To answer one of your questions: yes, there can be subconscious work going on that causes astral change - happens all the time! "Unconscious" is a misnomer - the Unconscious and the Subconscious levels have their own forms of "consciousness" - Jung discusses this in all his analysis of the Unconscius mind - both personal and collective.

Edited by: etzchaim at: 3/12/04 6:58 am
needthestar
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(3/12/04 6:59 am)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
Etz - This I find funny:

"chronic mental confusion and unreasonable stubbornness"

Well...what can I say?

This is all very, very interesting. I've tapped into the first link and found some incredible stuff.

So if it's "heated", does that mean it's "blocked"? What causes this blockage?

Too much chronic mental confusion and unreasonable stubbornness?

This is all very good - and new to me. Thanks very, very much for sharing...it'll investigate further. Thanks Etz. have a good day.
eric

etzchaim
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(3/12/04 7:36 am)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
The "heating" is a sign of unblocking. The problems most commonly experienced are caused by either a TOO sudden unblocking that cannot be assimilated, or an inability to unblock and the energy keeps moving in the wrong places. The other major issue is simply too much energy that can't be properly assimilated.

Hatha is a very good thing to practice, but if you are having a lot of awakening occurences, pay close attention to which postures make you grounded and which ones make you feel less grounded. Generally, you want to do postures that 'open' up the back first, then follow with something that will strengthen - but is really important to listen to your body (or bodies...), first and foremost.

I've had great exeriences in clearing with massage. I go to a place that has unlimited free machine massage (developed in the late 90's in Korea by a company called Migun) that works along the spine and up and down the calves. Major stuff if you give it the time.

Edited by: etzchaim at: 3/12/04 7:54 am
etzchaim
Registered User
(3/12/04 8:04 am)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
One more thing: Be careful of the 'newer' Hatha Yoga groups (even Iyengar), like Ashtanga and Bikram. They're not necessarily bad, just more 'athletics' oriented than spiritually oriented. Iyengar is extremely good in training but he originally developed it train the Indian military - so while he was an awesome teacher and it really is a great system of Hatha, it's not of the more gentle variety. "Power Yoga" is not spiritually oriented at all, however great a form of physical excercise it may be, and can cause damage from too much energy release and not preparing for the physical strain well enough. If you're Hatha teacher shopping, try to find someone who understands how the postures relate to the chakras and who is aware of the spiritual results of the postures.

redpurusha
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(3/12/04 8:45 am)
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etz, I read one personal account of their problems on the website you provide. This person was doing TM and advanced TM techniques, and even though she led a healthy lifestyle of eating natural foods, she had some serious health issues come up as a result of the meditation practice. This only helps confirm for me, why George Burke warns people from doing TM meditative practices in particular. He tried it himself and with negative results.

From my limited reading of the site, the author almost exclusively describes the negative female kundalini energy, totally ignoring or not acknowledging the masculine positive energy that also exists and is necessary for healthy spiritual growth. Norman Paulsen, a direct disciple of Yogananda, explains how this release of negative kundalini energy, without involving the masculine energy that ascends down the spine from the top energy chakra, leads to problems. If a bride shows up at her wedding, but the groom fails to show up, there will be problems indeed! I mention this only because it is one explanation for the problems arising with kundalini awakening (not to promote Paulsen).

etzchaim
Registered User
(3/12/04 9:16 am)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
RedPurusha, thanks for pointing out the downward flowing energy. That's what is often neglected in many systems, actually. People seem to think that it's only important to 'go up', so they only focus on the Shakti energy. Oddly, Kabbalah practices start by going down, first, and then go up! It's one of the few systems that rotate energy and start with the masculine energy first (don't tell any strident Jewish feminists...:) ). To me, the rotation that is emphasized in Kriya (and other systems that do this) is what makes it such a balanced system. ...what goes up must come down... Whatever one wants to call the positive and negative energies, they're both required to make up a whole!

I'm not surprised to see issues showing up with regard to TM. I've seen numerous other indications that show that it's not a safe path.

Edited by: etzchaim at: 3/12/04 9:16 am
needthestar
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(3/16/04 3:55 pm)
Reply 		Re: Hot Spots = Chakras?
Thanks for the advice Etz.

Unfortunately I have to rely on DVD's as personal training is too expensive right now.

With that said I know what you are saying - Yoga is a hot topic right now and is sort of tossed about without much thought as to the spiritual results other than the blanket "peace of mind" comments.

Patricia Walden seems to take things slow and she describes each position properly as the position is given. She may not explain it all in spiritual terms, but she's also not doing it for the camera either.

If you can think of anyone that has either a book or DVD on Hatha I'd take great interest.

thanks Etz.

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