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NewBoy Unregistered User (3/12/02 7:01 am) Reply	Shooting at Mount Washington? Does anyone know about the alleged shooting that took place in the chapel at Mount Washington? I read about this shooting in the New Times articles on either Ben Erskine or the "Return of the Swami." Was the shooter a member? A wandering psycho? Apparently damage was done to the chapel at MW. How was the shooter apprehended? Does anyone have details on this rather bizarre story? Thanks.
Reporter Unregistered User (3/12/02 8:45 pm) Reply	Details? I know that this did in fact happen. Shot up the alter. The police were called and he was hauled off. I don't know if he was a member. To slip into the rumor level information I always thought it was a born-again type who didn't like the alter. Other vandalism has taken place also with red paint being poured on the front gates (to simulate blood I suspect). There are some weird people out there. Consultants drive up and rob the place every payday but no one seems to worry too much about that.
PostMonk Unregistered User (3/12/02 10:42 pm) Reply	Shooting The shooting did happen well over a decade ago. I was there when it happened. The shooter was, in fact, an SRF member who at one time had applied to the ashram and been denied. He did not hurt anyone and surrender peacefully. That was smart on his part because LAPD was quite prepared to start shooting back. I knew him. The incident was not related to his denial but he just cracked a few years later and blamed the Gurus for his problems. He used a 22 cal handgun to shoot a few holes in the altar and threw a chair out the chapel window.
Never a dull moment at SRF Unregistered User (3/13/02 9:11 am) Reply	Re: Shooting Isn't our religion great? Lies, deceptions, forgeries, incompetent fundamentalist Mormon women at the helm, millions sunk into software, overpaid consultants, lawsuits, sex scandals, paternity claims, children out of wedlock, cracked up wackos shooting up the headquarters ... One thing you can't say about SRF is that it's boring.
NewBoy Unregistered User (3/13/02 12:17 pm) Reply	Shootings Thanks, PostMonk, for giving me the details. I never fully trust anything I read in the newspaper, least of all the New Times. To others posting, I think (know) every religion or philosophy has its share of people who go off the deep end. Let's not forget that suicide among psychiatrists is very high! Does that mean psychoanalysis itself is fraudulant and to be avoided? I don't think so. Yes, SRF has endured as well as created some rough times over the years. It's a spiritual institution run by human beings. Like others, I wish the BOD would deal more efficiently with some of the scandals and mishaps. But as an outsider, how do I know they haven't tried? What a complex, complicated world we all live in.
Valerio Unregistered User (3/14/02 7:00 am) Reply	no insults Didn't you realize that this board is full of hidden and open insults against SRF ,Yogananda,etc.? Even a saint wouldn't tolerate certain affirmations and would react in a firm way:and I'm not a saint.When my Guru and SRF are attached unreasonibly,just to offend or ridiculize them,I can't but react as I do.And as this come out from my love and respect,and adoration for my Guru,and even for the love of those whom I address my post,I remain very proud to be an SRF member since 1968.My peace and joy are not touched by someone's posting nor by mine ;my reactions I live peacefully as a duty toward Gurudeva.And if you can blindly tolerate certain affirmation against Master and His association I would kindly give you the advice to ask yourself how you are living your Guru -disciple relationship.Anyway thank you for your answering me.You gave me the oppurtunity to express better my thougt about the matter.Please,don't read hate behind my posting,but only spiritual ardor .Valerio
username Registered User (3/14/02 7:38 am) Reply	When my guru and SRF are attached unreasonably I think this is what this board is all about Vale - There most definitely is an UNREASONABLE ATTACHMENT of SRF and Yogananda. I am sure Yogananda could never envision such an organization. Yogananda would most likely find the things SRF doing as being UNREASONABLE. Master must be speaking through you, Vale. Edited by: username at: 3/14/02 7:42:02 am
Valerio Unregistered User (3/14/02 7:45 am) Reply	To username Can you please express in other words or explain more extensively what you meant?I don't understand do to my knoledge of English.Than you very much.
Blindking Unregistered User (3/14/02 11:03 am) Reply	Attachment? I think what you guys mean is more like ATTACK and not Attach.
not fair Unregistered User (3/14/02 11:12 am) Reply	Re: Attachment *Quote:* I think what you guys mean is more like ATTACK and not Attach. I think what is going on here speaks more of a FAILURE OF WALRUS TO MANAGE THIS BOARD PROPERLY than anything else. Walrus constantly deletes other people's innocent messages that are free of abuse or insult on a knee-jerk reaction, but consistently leaves other abusive messages such as are found on this thread by Valerio (and given his long history of abuse on this baord) even when numerous people agree that the posts are abusive and should be deleted. Playing favorites and bad moderation is the bane of most message board on the internet and this one isn't any different. P.S. Watch this message get deleted and Valerio's abusive ones won't be. sigh
blindking Unregistered User (3/14/02 4:33 pm) Reply	Attaching? "I think what you guys mean is more like ATTACK and not Attach. " I'm not attacking anyone, I was trying to explain Username and Valerio the correct english word that should be used it is not attach but Attack.
astral7 Registered User (1/16/03 1:46 pm) Reply	Re: Shooting RE shooting , We will have to give the S R F much credit on this one,Just think of how bad things would have gotten if he were a monk.He may have been mentally unstable even when he was applying. Instead of just shooting up the place he would have really run amok. Screening persons for the spiritual life of a clergy or monastic orders must Be one of the most difficult calls anyone in that position could have to make.When so many of the applicants either don�t know what they want or are living in some kind of fantasy world. They go there with the idea that �I�ll just try this for a while and see what its like.� Very unstable attitude! These are many of those who came there which such immature attitudes that makes them blame everyone but themselves when they eventually find that they cant handle that lifestyle, that commitment. Or they may feel that they want to go out as gurus of their own cults, who knows! But most those who do know what they are doing and stick with, it appear to have gained spiritually great things at Self-Realization Fellowship. Ragards and respect � Astral7
KS Registered User (1/25/03 6:25 am) Reply	Re: Shooting Don't get to metaphysical on this one, this is just a point of history and someone wanted the details. It is weird that someone would be so upset with SRF to outsiders but there are a lot of strange people in the world. SRF's screening process is not to keep out shooters! Read the Walrus and learn.
SayItIsntSo Registered User (3/2/06 12:55 pm) Reply ezSupporter	Re: Attachment Ha ha! Typical. Someone right away thought it was a Christian! Spot the Looney

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