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Ramsses II
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(10/26/05 4:23 pm)
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Dick at the Heart of Darkness
By MAUREEN DOWD
Published: October 26, 2005

After W. was elected, he sometimes gave visitors a tour of the love alcove off the Oval Office where Bill trysted with Monica - the notorious spot where his predecessor had dishonored the White House.

If W. wants to show people now where the White House has been dishonored in far more astounding and deadly ways, he'll have to haul them around every nook and cranny of his vice president's office, then go across the river for a walk of shame through the Rummy empire at the Pentagon.

The shocking thing about the trellis of revelations showing Dick Cheney, the self-styled Mr. Strong America, as the central figure in dark conspiracies to juice up a case for war and demonize those who tried to tell the public the truth is how unshocking it all is.

It's exactly what we thought was going on, but we never thought we'd actually hear the lurid details: Cheney and Rummy, the two old compadres from the Nixon and Ford days, in a cabal running the country and the world into the ground, driven by their poisonous obsession with Iraq, while Junior is out of the loop, playing in the gym or on his mountain bike.

Mr. Cheney has been so well protected by his Praetorian guard all these years that it's been hard for the public to see his dastardly deeds and petty schemes. But now, because of Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation and candid talk from Brent Scowcroft and Lawrence Wilkerson, he's been flushed out as the heart of darkness: all sulfurous strands lead back to the man W. aptly nicknamed Vice.

According to a Times story yesterday, Scooter Libby first learned about Joseph Wilson's C.I.A. wife from his boss, Mr. Cheney, not from reporters, as he'd originally suggested. And Mr. Cheney learned it from George Tenet, according to Mr. Libby's notes.

The Bush hawks presented themselves as protectors and exporters of American values. But they were so feverish about projecting the alternate reality they had constructed to link Saddam and Al Qaeda - and fulfilling their idée fixe about invading Iraq - they perverted American values.

Whether or not it turns out to be illegal, outing a C.I.A. agent - undercover or not - simply to undermine her husband's story is Rove-ishly sleazy. This no-leak administration was perfectly willing to leak to hurt anyone who got in its way.

Vice also pressed for a loophole so the C.I.A. could do torture-light on prisoners in U.S. custody, but John McCain rebuffed His Tortureness. Senator McCain has sponsored a measure to bar the cruel treatment of prisoners because he knows that this is not who we are. (Remember the days when the only torture was listening to politicians reciting their best TV lines at dinner parties?)

Colonel Wilkerson, the former chief of staff for Colin Powell, broke the code and denounced Vice's vortex, calling his own involvement in Mr. Powell's U.N. speech, infected with bogus Cheney and Scooter malarkey, "the lowest point" in his life.

He followed that with a blast of blunt talk in a speech and an op-ed piece in The Los Angeles Times, saying that foreign policy had been hijacked by "a secretive, little-known cabal" that hated dissent. He said the cabal was headed by Mr. Cheney, "a vice president who speaks only to Rush Limbaugh and assembled military forces," and Donald Rumsfeld, "a secretary of defense presiding over the death by a thousand cuts of our overstretched armed forces."

"I believe that the decisions of this cabal were sometimes made with the full and witting support of the president and sometimes with something less," Colonel Wilkerson wrote. "More often than not, then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice was simply steamrolled by this cabal."

Brent Scowcroft, Bush Senior's close friend, let out a shriek this week to Jeffrey Goldberg in The New Yorker, revealing his estrangement from W. and his old protégé Condi. He disdained Paul Wolfowitz as a naïve utopian and said he didn't "know" his old friend Dick Cheney anymore. Vice's alliance with the neocons, who were determined to finish in Iraq what Mr. Scowcroft and Poppy had declared finished, led him to lead the nation into a morass. Troop deaths are now around 2,000, a gruesome milestone.

"The reason I part with the neocons is that I don't think in any reasonable time frame the objective of democratizing the Middle East can be successful," Mr. Scowcroft said. "If you can do it, fine, but I don't think you can, and in the process of trying to do it you can make the Middle East a lot worse."

W. should take the Medal of Freedom away from Mr. Tenet and give medals to Colonel Wilkerson and Mr. Scowcroft.

dontknownothinbouthistory
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(10/27/05 12:44 pm)
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When: August 31st, 2004
Where: San Francisco Commonwealth Club

Michael C. Ruppert in a speech entire in these 12 pages summarizes his 500+ page book, Crossing the Rubicon, where he gives the info to let the American public be the jury as to whether dick had the motive, the opportunity and planned and carried out 9/11. No court will touch even the most minor of documents, conversations, etc citing "national interests."

The book summarized in this speech is the second best selling book on 9//11, second only to the "official" commission report.

www.stufftoread.net/archi...rt-part-i/

Ramsses II
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(10/27/05 2:16 pm)
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Yes. It opens for me. Thanks.

moyma
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(10/27/05 6:54 pm)
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The 9-11 thing was going to happen....Everybody it seems knew it.....basicly a bunch of fanatics with razor knife's .
Thats all it was....
We read way too much into it !!!
That is what has caused all the problems for this country.
It was a such a simple thing to carry that fear to Irag.
America lives in that fear.....thats the problem. Dick just took it to the next level

Ramsses II
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(10/27/05 7:38 pm)
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I don't doubt that the terrorists carried it out. But have you examined the 9/11 anomalies? Did you go to the website given in the previous post? There is just too much evidence to doubt that the government not only let it happen but facilitated it.

moyma
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(10/30/05 6:40 pm)
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That the goverment may have been lax on that day I can agree on ,But we never have shot down one of our own airliners , that it didn't happen on 9-11 doesn't amaze me .
I don't think they [Cheney ]facilitated the attack......He didn't need to . All they needed was time.....like I said everyone knew it was coming ..... HE COULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED WHAT HE WANTED BY SHOOTING THE JETS DOWN..... Heck, then he could have blamed it on Iraq ...I think they were just waiting for the right moment I think the same was true of pearl harbor......If you had your head buried then yeah ! huge suprize.....
As for the middle east takeover ? Yes ! I think that is very real
the "argiyle [sp] group' needs it..... all the oil money needs it....Prices are going to sky rocket untill there is some kind of war.....

dontknownothinbouthistory
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(10/31/05 1:12 pm)
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passengers gained control of the plane "lost" over Pennsylvania

that would have revealed much that Cheney wanted the lid on
that plane was probably shot down

plane parts were found 8 miles from each other, part of an engine was found at great distance from others

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